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Edited by Lost Sols: 7/23/2019 12:14:29 AM
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Destiny 2 Year 2 matchmaking: How it works and the case for why skill needs to be factored.

As we near the release of Shadowkeep, we're seeing another push to keep skill from being factored in matchmaking this fall. I hope people are willing to take time to watch this and understand how the game's matchmaking actually works and why sbmm is a good thing for the overall health of the game. Thank you.
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  • 1. Y1 D1 [u]never[/u] had sbmm, you've been spamming this lie since forever and no twitch past broadcasts, YouTube games from that era, stat games from that era or anything has ever matched up with what you claim. Sbmm was sneakily implemented during ttk - was discovered by the community, denied by bungie at first then they later admitted it. This was followed by a month of rebellion by the entire community screaming #removesbmm until bungie were forced to do so. Theres a reason bungie tried to sneak it in and couldnt be open about it; they themselves know majority hate it. 2. Higher tier player cannot play with weaker friends, you take a 2K player running with his weaker silver friends and his friends get stomped by the 6 average gold players they match. 1 diamond player cannot consistently carry under sbmm. 3. Sbmm ONLY benefits the bottom 50, you saying "that is incorrect" doesnt change the fact. Everyone above that 50% mark love non-sbmm. Those below love sbmm. The goal is to provide playlists for both those tiers and offer players options - which bungie has done. Sorry that all of pvp womt cater to the bottom half. Actually no I'm not sorry at all. 4. New players already have protection for thier first matches, anyone that's made a new account can co form this - further unless you are trying to claim that new players constantly match the top tier this argument is ridiculous 5. Skill consideration has nothing to do with balance, an overpowered gun is clearly apparent from usage, everyone and anyone can use lord of wolves now, its hardly only a top tier player = the only ones that can perform well with it. 6. You can use bows and other guns as much as you want - sounds to me like you just get killed repeatedly trying to use weaker weapons - thats on you and how you use said guns, you failing to perform well with weaker weapons does not mean "let's blame the sweaty players" it means you need to evaluate how you use said weapon and if it's the right choice for × map or gamemode or when facing opponents with × gear. 7. Funny that you praise banner when it's one of the most complained about topics here - including but not limited too how laggy it gets. 8. "The game needs to be fun and accessible to everyone" - it is. You want ranked? You got it. You want sbmm? You got it. You want non-sbmm? You got it. Stop trying to remove the options WE enjoy just so you get MORE options that cater to YOU. 9. "The stuff you're reading in forums just isnt correct" pot meet kettle 10. No. Sbmm is not a good thing at all and certainly isnt good for the majority of players - you've had this thrown in your face so many times its shocking you can still sit there and attempt to lie about it now. Sbmm is the death of any incentive to improve. You may as well stay bad and only play bad then attempt to move up and see no progress whatsoever as the competition just does as well. A game needs options - some playlists should 100% have sbmm, some 100% should NOT have sbmm. A ranked playlist is also a good thing. You have options for sbmm. You have a ranked playlist. You have 1 playlist that's not for sbmm and in fact is operating exactly like a social playlist should and has in every shooter from halo to cod to titanfall to fortnite. It's time you stopped trying to take our choice away and got a clue as to what a social playlist is for. Close, competitive games and social playlists are opposites - qp is about fast games with no filters, anyone can match everyone and that's completely fair to all, no ones forcing players to run qp, there is no bounty that requires that playlist, if you dont like it by all means enjoy the playlists that revolve around what you're after. But lol and smh if you think you're going to remove the 1 option other players enjoy. Sbmm doesnt beling in non-ranked and it sure as hell doesnt have a place controlling every facet of pvp, if 1/5 playlists not going your way means you're leaving then good bye and good riddance and we are far better off without such entitled and selfish players. No. You cant have all of pvp.

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