Both dev came to their games not understanding how to make a good loot game. Massive swallowed their pride. Admitted that they didn’t know...and spent two years LEARNING from their customers and others how to do it. They are still holding themselves accountable to their customers. Despite Div 2 being one of the best games on the market right now. Bungie’s arrogance never allowed them to admit they didn’t know, and still don’t know. So the game has now clear vision and is constantly being changed in randomly aggravating ways. And now it’s clear that they don’t even respect us. Never mind want to bother to dialogue with us. [i]We’re Bungie and we know best...[/i] Pffffttt......