Hey Bungie. See this guy? He’s a -blam!-in tool with bad business advice. Your product can’t survive with only the hardcore playerbase spending $$$. You need the casual base spending $$$ too. You need to find ways to engage both a broader more casual audience and a more dedicated base at the same time. You do this by balancing risk/reward and doing things to reward each group either together or separately WITHOUT completely PISSING OFF the other playerbase. Both groups are needed to generate enough revenue to keep the franchise alive and keep content comming. Vanilla D2 is an example of overcatering to the casual base at the expense of the hardcore. It didn’t go well. And here we are with this Core Bullshit. What a swing in the opposite direction. Your casual base is largely gone, what little is left is hanging on by a thread. This is bad and needs to be be fixed right away. It’s a shit show honestly. Now let’s talk about this little -blam!-wad fart sniffing scrotum faced douche bag and dumbasses like him. The Elitist Etreme of the hardcore playerbase population. Don’t listen to him or people like him. Cores for Infusion really dont gain people like him or anything except a pathetic sense of exclusivity and superiority. -blam!- that Bungie. Be better than that. Be SMARTER than that.

Someone's not had their nap. Tut tut.

Begone weaksauce. I flush things more intelligent things than you down the toilet every morning during my shit, shower, and shave ritual.

Shaving your legs doesn't count baby cakes.

LoL. Son, this has honestly got to be the weakest insult I've had thrown my way on my many years on this forum. I'm gonna give you another shot at coming up with some acceptable shit talk to spit my way so that I can actually address and respond to it. Upon scrolling some of your post history, it's doubtful you can. But you know what? I believe in you. I believe you can step up and talk to me like a man and not some little -blam!- made ass clown you've shown yourself to be. So c'mon. Give it your best shot.

It wasn't an insult princess. You're probably just in that salty frame of mind hehe. [spoiler]time of the month? 🤔[/spoiler]

Though he stayed awake in business class. Which is more important here. Because he's absolutely right. No business can survive tyring to market to small numbers of customers with niche tastes. UNLESS THOSE CUSTOMERS ARE WILLING TO PAY A PREMIUM FOR THAT SERVICE. PC gamers have shown that they are willing to do this. Which is why you get super-hardcore games like World of Warcraft and EVE Online. These players pay a subscription fee to make up for revenue lost due to having a rather narrow (or more narrow) player base. Console gamers have shown that they are NOT willing to do this. So any AAA game like Destiny has to develop a broad base of player support if it wants to be profitabl.

Whenever I don't like how a movie ends, I demand they remake it to suit me 👍

Non sequitur. A movie is a fixed experience. A video game is an interactive form of entertainment that is USELESS until a PERSON interacts with it. So...as a paying customer... whom Bungie is asking to invest a tremendous amount of time and energy interacting with their product...... .....my preferences and those of other players should very naturally be considered. Bungie isn't required to do this......but then we also aren't required to give them our time and money. ...and they risk losing both to developers (like Massive) who are much more respectful of, and interactive with their customers.

Ok, well u entitled kids keep stamping your feet. They might cave eventually lol 👍

I'm not a kid. I'm a 51 year old professional....and I had to lay my parents to rest 8 years and 6 years ago respectively. So unless you've been drawing Social Security for at least 5 years, you are in no position to call me "kid". What it DOES make me is a consumer who is seasoned enough to understand what my power is....and how to use it. It also give me enough life experience to have learned that I can no longer influence a system when I stop INTERACTING wtih it. (Are you listening Progressives??) My complaining isn't going to change Bungie's mind. What has the power to change their mind is my taking my MONEY and TIME, and giving it to Bungie's competitors. Enough people do that, and you'll grab Bungie----as a business----so hard by the short-hairs that they'll have no choice but to pay attention. ...and itis my (and other's) complaining that will then inform Bungie on what it will take to convince us to loosen our painful hold on their....ahem.....[i]"undivided attention". [/i] Bungie is a business in one of the most competitive, and least forgiving busineses there is. They work for ME.....not the other way around. They've forgotten that fact....and sometimes that requires a painful blow to a business's bottomline, to remind them of the natural order of things. ...and who exactly is the alpha dog in the room. Microsoft lost sight of that at the start of this console generation....and felt they were in a position to dictate terms to their customers. Just like they do in desktop computing. They got a very RUDE reminder by gamers, that they didn't have a monopoly, and weren't required to jsut accept whatever MS's agenda was. MS is STILL playing that price.

[quote]These players pay a subscription fee to make up for revenue lost due to having a rather narrow (or more narrow) player base.[/quote] Agreed 1,000%. That being said, annual pass is nothing more than an subscription, albeit a small one, paid in one annual lump sum. Basically, I pay a little over $3 per month for the Destiny 2 “annual pass” and just under $13 per month for my ffxiv “annual subscription”, both in addition to their respective $60 game prices. Annual fee is an annual fee is an annual fee, regardless of whether Bungie calls it a “pass” or Square calls it a “sub”. Whether we like it or not, we’re effectively subbing this game. A tiny sub, but a subscription fee nonetheless.

Regardless of whether we're "subbing" to a low rent annual pass... how about the actual content? It's shit. I do not feel I got my money's worth AT ALL from the AP content. I've tried it, don't like it. When I do play, it's not AP content at all. AP was a waste of money, IMO. The content was so weak, it should've been free.

Agreed. But it’s not enough to allow Bungie to get away with alienating parts of the current player base. It’s not enough to allow Bungie’s way of managing D2 to avoid damaging the Destiny brand and its profitability.