There's a reason why it's so easy to get a post trending these days. I've had three trend in just the last two days. And before this I've had maybe one trend in the last four years..... People are giving up on the game, giving up on the forums, giving up on redit, giving up. On. Bungie. They have stopped coming to the forums, because they've given up hope of bungie actually listening to them. So all that's left are the most motivated for change, and the "this is fine dog" trolls. The people who are still here, those looking to create trouble, and those motivated for change, those motivated for change are the people who are most committed to seeing bungie survive. The trolls just want to create drama and if it kills Bungie they would actually enjoy it more... Years ago there was something that happened in world of warcraft remembered as the "corrupted blood incident". Most players self quarantined while the developers tried to fix the problem. But then you had the "this is fine dog trolls" of that time who would deliberately go into "cleaned" areas to reinfect them. Over. And over. Because they wanted to create drama. They got off on it. Their usual defense was "if you don't want to get infected, just go somewhere else." Years later the FBI, CDC, and CIA have studied and are still studying these trolls and the event it's self for insights into the mindsets of terrorists who might use viral warfare.... To be very clear. The major intelligence agencies and the Center for Disease Control all consider trolls to have the same mind set and motivations as terrorists. To create suffering and division where ever and when ever possible. And one of the major tactics they use is trying to make the voice of the majority be marginalized into "a vocal minority". My professional advise to you is that you stop trying to talk to them, stop trying to reason with them, and just mute them whenever they bother you with their idiocy. It's kinda like those scam auto dialers your grandparents get. The best cure is not to tell them to stop calling, but rather to just not answer the phone, because once they see you are someone who will respond to their nonsense they will only pester you more. And my professional advise to you trolls is that you seek professional mental help. You're mentally diseased and you need counseling before you hurt someone, assuming you haven't already. Pulling the wings off butterflys and torturing and killing people's cats will only entertain you for so long.