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Edited by Talia Sendua:
4/27/2019 7:02:53 PM
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Guys, keep in mind that we, the luna and NF owners, had around 8 months the best pvp guns in our hands. It is time thaat we let others have fun too. PvP wasn't made exclusively for us hardcore sweaters.
I have my luna, I played the gun for 4 months without a break in crucible and I WANT THIS NERF!
Yeah, it took time and skill to get the guns but we had already enough benefit from them.
I will be happy when I can pick up my auto rifles again without worrying about lunas and NF around each corner.
And it is kinda ironic that you guys, which have obviously so much skill, complain about a nerf which would you only force to have EVEN MORE SKILL with the guns or playing guns which do require actually gun skill and knowledge.
I don't want to say that luna and NF are crutch cannons but I feel like all the complainers didn't touched other primary guns since they got the pinnacles. It is time that you learn to play other guns again.
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So brave!
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Yeah it had a good run
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I agree but damn, it’s quite unfair what they’re doing to pinnacle weapons. You’re required to reach fabled (2100) but Bungje tend to nerf them. That is some bs. They pretty much destroyed crucible. Not our sweaty player’s fault for others couldn’t get their hands on LH/NF. Smh
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Never even tried for Lunas, quite simply don't have the time or the inclination to get quite that sweaty. Not to say I don't get my try hard pants on from time to time, even so I don't think nerfing it is a good idea at all. The problem isn't necessarily the gun but more the way it is achieved opening doors for paid carries, exploiting playlist matchmaking and creating toxic elitism. I'm not against having an elite crowd, it is only natural that one should exist but in a form that is there to help and dare I say inspire newer and lesser skilled players, not to stomp and belittle those further down the pecking order. There are other larger issues behind the pinnacle weapons that are never really being addressed and nerfing these guns will not solve them.
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Edited by Racebum: 4/26/2019 10:38:00 PMWell. The playerbase is dead now. Every match is a sweat fest. Pvp is night and day worse than day 1. Only caters to hardcore players now. Isnt fun for someone playing an hour a week and the numbers especially on pc reflect it On top of that there still is no geo filter requiring a 300 dollar router to avoid cross continent matchmaking
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Great points, terrible title For those under 30, nobody wants you to write a paragraph in the TITLE. Make that a short summary of your topic that fits on one line. Thank You....
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I agree. I’m hoping other weapons get a small bump in crucible, namely the 150s and 110s HCs. Also, this may not be a huge nerf for the guns because they are still precision frames. Could be OG Eyaslunas. And i don’t really care what the small group of four stacked hardcore teams think about these guns getting nerfed and hopeful that it will get more people into comp because they aren’t getting stomped by dust rocks and Luna’s.
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1 ReplyI didn't read your thread only the title but that made me like "nani the -blam!-". "Us sweaters?" I mean yeah there are those too but I'm sure the other kind exists too like myself whom are avarage, got their luna kinda easy but thinking NF was pain in the ass. You will need skill of course but if you are somekind avarage or bit above it you can still get the weapon if you have the will to play that much for it (I only played comp for while tho I never liked pve to begin with so that was no price for me by any means) than you can get it. Then again now probably avarage ppl won't think its worth the pain. I'm not sure if I would've played for it if I knew its come to this.
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Edited by Gigafloh: 4/26/2019 10:24:54 PMYe or don't play the game at all. Bungie doesn't remember their competitve Halo heritage anymore. This game's PVP has become a joke, starting with the absence of tris and will be from now on tailored for casuals only. Let's all find another game already. First the revelry made the whole crucible a farce, now my through solo queuing acquired Luna's will be worse than Service Revolver. Not to mention the time they need to find out throw their "analysis" that Nova Warp and Spectral Blades are OP and to implement changes. The master chief collection has more frequent updates!
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6 Repliesthey shouldn't be nerfed, they should only be able to be used in comp because that is where you earn them. no reason to use them in qp. bungie be sh1tt1ing the bed again.
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Nf should be excluded from nerf and get -15 stability instead.
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Yay, we have a couple of really strong weapons for half a year, now they're getting nerfed. Can't wait for this to happen with other weapons.
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11 RepliesThis isnt how it should work. The game should just be balanced... lunas and NF are hardly pinnacle weapons anymore, they are just going to be worse versions of spare rations and ace of spades
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i havent touched luna since forsaken but i want it to remain powerful and not become a legendary worse than random zavala drops
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Edited by iDEVAST4T0R: 4/26/2019 9:58:10 PMIf Bungie didnt nerf anything and buffed everything around it or just left things alone id be fine with that. Luna's and Not Forgotten's may dominate the playerbase in crucible but I got Jotunn so im not complaining now that I can take those 2 weapons out no problem.
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1 ReplySo guns should have an expiration date?
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8 RepliesSo we just nerf guns after a span of time because they are good? That is terrible logic. I can’t believe this nerf, it is unacceptable
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It's about having something new to grind for, not about letting others have fun too.
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its to little to late, pc pvp is better anyway
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2 RepliesEdited by Yuri Tardid: 4/26/2019 8:06:19 PMNot everyone got the gun(s) day one. A lot of people had to get better at pvp first. They grind and grind to get these amazing weapons. After all their hard work and excitement to use the weapons they get slapped in the face with a nerf. It feels more like a betrayal. I don’t even have a nf and it bothers me. They should not be nerfing the weapons, they should create weapons to challenge them.
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4 RepliesI remember the day I got my luna...straight in the vault. Why use that piece of shit when erentil exists.
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Yes nerf the only gun that keep players from using erentil now it’s just gonna be that and service revolver it’s gonna be even worse then it was with Luna’s and NF
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In all fairness, I really think they could just have the body shot damage match crit damage, which it might, who knows, but to make it more rewarding, not reset the buff on kill, that way you can 3 shot followup targets far easier if you don't need to hit the head.
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As a purely PVE sweat, I still grinded out the steps of LH and recluse and personally feel that the nerf is uncalled for. If someone as mediocre as me can still earn a pinnacle weapon, he or she should be able to use them at its full strength and not a watered-down version. The quest is available to anyone and everyone so it's not truly an exclusivity issue. Additionally, it does demand a fair degree of dueling skill to properly wield the LH and come out ahead (can't speak from experience for the nf but I'd reckon it's a similar situation). Yes, it has a fair degree of aim assist (it's a precision frame after all), but that mindset and twitch reaction speed is something I've developed after grinding the quest steps. Now, the gun will feel alien in my hands and (I'd speculate) the hands of many players who earned this weapon properly. In actuality, the ghorn pve nerf in D1 was more warranted since not everyone could immediately acquire it (and yet I still disagree with it). Just like in that example, those who aquire the weapons post nerf will never be able to experience their full power or glory (thus robbing them of an experience in-game). However, the reason I'm not raging and reeling at this latest nerf backhand from Bungie is that I still have a god rolled service revolver-accurized rounds, true sights, rapid hit/kill clip with reload MW (aka the new NF) and god rolled erentil-torch hs3, moving target, backup plan, protection fuse, range MW (aka Voop machine) to keep me warm in these cold, COLD times.
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2 RepliesI never liked it tbh made it all the way to 3100 whatever I'm at now without using it so I dont need it recluse is fine so I dont see any nerfs for that but I can see why howl was nerfed it's good makes people try new guns (I was using monarch and antiope my whole way through lol)
