There was nothing wrong with infusion through out Destiny. The problem was bottlenecking progression and birthing the moronic elitist mentality. You couldn’t get raid gear if you were solo unles you were lucky to find a LFG team that didn’t require lvl 30s with raid gear and weapons or ghorn. [b]THAT[/b] was the problem and Bungie rectified it. After that people complained about farming materials. I didn’t have a problem with it other than it being a shared world and that if you didn’t follow people around you couldn’t get mats or if you didn’t follow them you were harassed by morons who would message you talking crap. Bungie’s fault. Why couldn’t the materials disappear for those who picked it up and not for those who didn’t . Laziness. So what does Bungie do to fix that? They sell mats which severely undercut the turn in value to factions upsetting those who had 0 issues farming other than people who wanted you to play the way they were, the elitist still believe you should play how they do. The game showers you in cores? Didn’t I read one core per bounty? Is that a “shower”? Did you think two blues and a coin were “so much loot” too? Perhaps you are still not understanding the complaint about cores, it’s ok, there are a lot of people who are behind the learning curve. One item should not pull double duty, especially if said item is supposed to be “meaningful” to the game. [b]THAT[/b] is what people are annoyed with, why one item is being forced for multiple applications. You can get stuff from hawthorn, cool. So what about the solos that aren’t members of a clan? Does hawthorn give out cores to people who aren’t in clans? I haven’t played since Feb, does she now do more than just provide clan bounties and clan rewards?? If not, are you saying that in order to get those 21 cores a week in 3 hrs you must first join a clan??? Smh. I get it that you like systems that lack common sense. A lot of people aren’t blind followers and would like a more common sense approach of the game. Which is probably why the game only has close to 300k more people in it than it did during CoO. And don’t say there’s a “content drought” there have been those many players for a long time now and the numbers decrease every week. What happens when the AP content runs out? Bungie hasn’t sold anything since 2018 and they’ve already collected off it. You think anyone other than the devout fans are going to buy any new content coming out after the AP??? Lol. Devout fan of idiotic developer decisions, you do not have the numbers to carry this game or a future title. You wouldn’t even help Bungie break even on a new title. You need the wallets of the 14.1+ million(and still growing) that are not playing the game or investing money. You and Bungie are not convincing new money to come into the game, you’re convincing them to spend it elsewhere. We don’t need Bungie, their idiotic decisions or the blind fans who’d follow them off a cliff. You need our wallets more than we need you. The game might be Bungie’s but it lives or dies by the consumer. And with that I shall play thee a dirge because that is what is happening.

Who is telling you how to play? No one. Atm you get 7 per character from Hawthorne per week for doing really nothing but playing so that's 21 right there, crucible is 10 and with how many double/triple valor xp weekend there are you can get quite the stock with little effort, duplicate pinnacle weapons are a great source for cores you can get 98 just from that, curated weapons are +7 when you delete them, the game throws gear at you and you can get cores from deleting them, deleting gear gives you scrapper bounties which turns into cores, deleting gear turned into matter weaves that turn into cores, spider bounties grant cores, you can buy cores.. I could go on and on.... and they are adding even more ways.. so yes the game showers you in cores. I suggested one easy method that takes relatively 0 effort to get cores and you freak out.... you are the problem with this game. If cores really bother someone they will join a clan for those easy cores seeing you can get those 21 cores solo. I lack common sense? You are sitting here spouting off about solo players blah blah blah because you think you have to play with someone since that's how clan XP used to work.... they kinda changed that chief try to keep up with your superior "common sense". 😉 Blind follower? You are sitting here spouting off about solo players not even knowing how the system works anymore 😂🤣 this guy.. what a joke. 600k players is pretty good for a content drought 😊 we've been in forsaken for how many months now? I haven't seen any of this new content you speak of besides a few minor tac ons brought to the end game by the annual pass... which is all it was ever advertised as... not an expansion nor massive content update. I don't have the numbers to carry the franchise to a future title? I'd hope I don't 🤔 i'm not a bungie employee or a dev sooooo not sure what you are talking about.... I don't think you even know what you are talking about.

🤦‍♂️ I can’t even deal with this level of ignorance this early in the day. Who’s telling who how to play? Every devout fan is telling everyone how they should play and they’ve been doing so since Cores became a topic of discussion even since Forsaken dropped. You take things too literal. When I say “you” I don’t specifically mean your individual rump( calm down Sally) , but “you” as in those who blindly follow like good little devouts. I’m sorry if you’re incapable of understanding that. Sarcasm is also hard for people to follow when it’s written, don’t get bent out of shape if someone uses it in written form on you in the future. So yeah, back to that whole clan thing. That’s cool. So join a clan and play 3 characters for 21 cores. Cool. What if folks don’t want to join clans? -blam!- em? And you called ☝️ a “freak out”. 🤦‍♂️Lol. Did I say anything Bout being solo and in a clan? I know you don’t need to be with people, it’s been like that for a long time. Nor did I say anything about that, you pulled that little reed right out of your brain on your own. All I said was, so if they want it they have to be in a clan. I was already in a clan, I know how it worked prior to Valentine’s Day of 2019. Matterwaaves. Do they guarantee a drop when you dismantle something or is it still RNG? I never got a guaranteed one when I dismantled things prior to Feb when I last played. I didn’t get guaranteed cores when I broke down gear either, it was rng, same for the scrapper bounties. Did that change? As I said, I stopped playing in Feb. 600k is cool. I mean it’s a long drop from the 15 million that were present in Vanilla and it’s only 100k more since CoO. So yeah, big huge numbers there. And content is content pal. Last I checked we’ve had content dropped not too long ago and there’s another shot of content coming soon. I don’t know how you measure content but content is content regardless of how much it is. It it’s wasn’t part of Forsaken it’s new content. If cores really bother someone will they continue to jump through hoops to find them or will they just give up and close their wallet?? From what I’m seeing more people have decided to close their wallets than be good little circus animals. What you’re failing to understand, little devout, is that cores are merely the newest item to throw on the pile of problems that the game already has had. They’re the “straw that’s breaking the camels back” And no crap you personally don’t have the ability to save the game, once again “you” doesn’t always mean “you” specifically. Didn’t realize I needed to spell it out for someone who’s so much more intellectually superior to me. Do Try to keep up chief, this ain’t rocket science.

Ignorance would be you.... trying to talk about a subject that you have no knowledge of. I.E. Thinking solo players can't finish clan XP to get 21 cores since they aren't playing with people. 🤷‍♂️ That's definitely not how clan XP works. Who is telling you specifically how to play? You still haven't given me an example. All you gave me is a blanket statement. No you referenced me numerous times that I won't be able to sell copies of the game.. didn't know I was PSN, xbox, pc, gamestop and worked for bungie. I mean... clearly the one bent out of shape here is the one freaking out over a game they don't play.... and that's certainly not me soooooo 🤔. Again... that was one example of an easy route to get cores... I gave numerous others... I could give you more if you'd like 😊 You went on a short tyrant about solo players in clans being screwed over.... so ummmmm good try. I never said matter weaves were guranteed. But you do get them from dismantling gear and they result in a core... that is what I said. I don't see guranteed anywhere in there. I never said you got guranteed cores when you dismantled gear. I said the game throws trash gear at you and you can get a core when you dismantle them.. no where in there is the word guranteed. I never said you got a guranteed scrapper bounty when you dismantle gear. I said you get scrapper bounties from dismantling gear. No where in there is the word guranteed. Can you read? Apparently not. But good try 😁 👀👀 where were these 15 million players? There was never 15 million players logged into destiny at once. D1 had what 25 million regestered accounts? There was never 25 million active players. 🤔 Yeah we have had end game updates but we are still in forsaken... the same DLC we've been in for ages. People get bored and move on. It happens. I mean....for example by your logic a weapon skin is a content drop. We are still in forsaken. The annual pass is just tac ons to the end game of forsaken. The majority of the destiny player base doesn't participate in the end game.. a simple glance at the % of accounts that have completed raids would tell you that. It's no surprise casuals didn't flock back for end game tac ons. I mean casuals don't play the game for end game so cores don't really bother them. They've already moved on to other games. If bungie were to say a new DLC is coming yes they would blindly throw money at the screen to seek a few hours of enjoyment out of it before moving onto something else after a week or two. What i'm seeing is people complaining to complain. Saw the same crap in D1. You can't please everyone nor should you try to. 🤷‍♂️ I enjoy your name calling. It shows how weak minded you are. 😊

Lol. Smh. Don’t be obtuse. It’s making me think you’re unintelligent. I never said solos can’t do the clan stuff. I said does this mean they have to join a clan. Reading....good try but a poor effort. You said you get matterweaves when you dismantle things. By your lack of further explanation a person who hasn’t played since Feb would assume that they now drop with dismantle unlike before as they were RNG. Which, when you need an item to infuse, having it tied to the lottery system isn’t the best idea You do realize that RNG is random and doesn’t hit everyone equally and it has been a pain in the ass for people since 2014 but adding your infusion material in RNG is the best place to put them🤦‍♂️. And once again. I know you probably think you’re the center of the Destiny universe but please, do try and understand, I even went to explain that “you” in my statement meant “the collective you who enjoy cores”, I’m sorry I didn’t explain it all the way down to your level of reading comprehension but your hang up on the clan thing should’ve told me that you needed extra guidance and aid to interpret that much like my need for further explanation regarding the matterweaves and scrappers. The fact, devout fan of Destiny 2 and all the poor decisions made by management, is that there are currently more people dissatisfied with the game than there are satisfied. This was shown when Bungie was 60% down in sales in 2018. And this will show again when no one but their devout fans buy the content that drops after the AP. You know what would make people “throw their money at a the screen” capitulation from the developers to the larger wallet base. Which will need to occur is Bungie is to earn any faith for their next title. You are only concerned with the short game, many of the fans of this universe are concerned with the longevity and that is in jeopardy due to a poorly managed game design and the constant crapping on the consumer base that has occurred for 2 years.

I'm unintelligent because i'm going off what you are saying? 🤔 interesting. You definitely went on a mini tyrant about solo's being in clans 🤷‍♂️. Maybe think about what you are typing next time? I fail to see how what you say is my fault. But no they don't have to join a clan. That was one avenue for cores of the many i've given you. You do get matter weaves when you dismantle things.... that's kind of how those work. No where in there is the word guranteed that's something you added on your own. So yes... learn to read. No they really wouldn't look at it like it's a guranteed way to get cores/scrapper bounties/matter weaves. Anyone that's played the game for 5 minutes knows that's not true... but if they were wondering where scrapper bounties/matter weaves came from now they'd know. It's not tied to the lottery system. I've already given you 2 guranteed ways to get cores. There are more actual guranteed ways in the game. 🤷‍♂️ but again... you can't read. I'm the center of the destiny universe? So i'm the light? Didn't know I was in a video game. Ohhhh so the you meant all the people that play the game and have 0 problem getting cores because we play and the game throws them at you work for PSN, xbox, pc, gamestop, and bungie? Got it. 🤔 There is? Please link me your source of the satisfied vs unsatisfied players. In 2018 [b] when you came to destiny 2[/b] bungie had already been out since september of 2017. People were dissatisfied with dual primaries/ slow ttk/slow movement/ weak abilities/slow ability cool downs, fixed rolls etc etc. Forsaken dropped.. they fixed all that... everyone was happy. Numbers went way up.... they decided to not release a new DLC... people got tired of playing forsaken they left.... the people that are still playing are bored picking at the little things they hate and would throw money at the screen if destiny announced a full fledged DLC... so would the casuals that left. The annual pass was aimed at the hardcore players... they already stated that... they know the hardcore player base isn't massive. I'm concerned with the short game? Oh please do tell me what aspects of the game I enjoy. Because you have no idea. 🤔 weren't you just complaining about people telling "you how to play" 🤣😂 kind of an oxymoronic eh? I get you aren't the brightest but imma spell it out for ya. They are a small studio working on another game. They have the majority of their resources working on that other game. They are done with D2.. you should've realized that when they said we are done with expansion style DLC. It would be a waste of resources to throw a massive amount of money into a product they are done with. But I guess you can't seem to grasp how business works.

[quote]You can get stuff from hawthorn, cool. So what about the solos that aren’t members of a clan? Does hawthorn give out cores to people who aren’t in clans? I haven’t played since Feb, does she now do more than just provide clan bounties and clan rewards?? If not, are you saying that in order to get those 21 cores a week in 3 hrs you must first join a clan??? .[/quote] That’s all I wrote about clans originally so I’m not sure where you pulled your crap about my “tyrant” about clans. Apparently you couldn’t read the first time I wrote it or when I re-wrote it two more times after that. Now that I’ve corrected you, again. I’m done with ya. Can’t be wasting my time on someone who thinks they’re la smartass but apparently isn’t coloring with a full box of crayons. Toodles. Enjoy defending Bungie. We all know they need all of you they can get. [spoiler]thats you as “people who defend Bungie”. I’d hate for you to be confused how I used you again. [/spoiler]

[quote]Who’s telling who how to play?[/quote] Bungie. They structured the entire game to force you to play it in a particular way....and to withhold progression and access to your current gear if you fail to comply.

Ah, forever 29....

Yup lol could never get a helmet

Mine was legs, just give me legs! My titan looked like a space clown.

My old clan didn’t play anymore got a new one with a couple of my mates and they don’t play anymore either lol. Point is you shouldn’t have to be in a big clan to get cores. Clans are supposed to just be a bit of fun with mates not to make the game function

You don't have to be in a big clan. I'm not in a big clan it's usally just the same handful of us playing. The cores unlock at tier 3. That's very easy to obtain. That was one example of an easy route to get a ton of cores. There are plenty of other ways to gain a lot of cores.

Not when you have other things to do in life. I do t play this game only to hunt cores.

So do the other things. There is a ton of easy ways to gain cores though they don't take much time at all.

How old are you? Are you married, do you live with a partner, have kids, spend all day at work only to get home and have a short time with your family. Then play a game only to have to go back to work to get cores 😆 it’s not feeling like a game anymore