My point of view on this. Bungie choose to call this a discussion. Not us. Bungie tend to choose there words carefully. So they need to be part of this or stop calling this a discussion if they don't intend to be part of it. I basically play now when xur comes round for the lore. Playing borderlands from the start. Going to do 1, dlc, 2, dlc, pre-sequel, dlc and then tales in prep for borderlands 3. Plenty other games out there.