Once again, the three games of crucible this year maybe only 1 game I had this gun in, and I regularly sit there and let myself die while taking a shit because I'm getting my engram. I'm no stranger to pvp though, ive had my 28 and 2, or 30 and 0 games, back in call of duty mw1, too. Destiny one I loved it for a while But here it's all cqb I play medium to long, cqb in a pinch, but not my style when theres so many pure cqb builds, it punishes me to use anything else. Once they right these pvp maps and get some range areas..I'll probably come back and train up to at least 2.0 just for the sake of it, and then, probably head to d3 If it's on sale.