If they ever do this, you kids will find another excuse to losing all the time so the change would be pointless. I play in every type of scenario and never have I noticed a difference when going up against a team of randoms than going up against a “stacked” team. Get better or play a different game.

They should also add the option to opt in/out of the join-in-progress feature in the modes where it applies. Sadly, matchmaking in D2 is shockingly bad, and Bungie have little to no desire to address it. PvP. Gambit. Forges. Reckoning. Unforgiveably bad for a supposed 'AAA' title in 2019...

There's a way to fix PvP in Destiny, for started let me just say this: I'M A AWFULL PVP PLAYER, but, I'm also smart enough to understand why is so frustrating for a casual player plays PvP in destiny: Reason 1: Crucible was designed to be a Player vs Player experience for those who care about how good or bad are their skill fighting against other players. BUT, with Destiny System - a Loot /Action/Shooter game with some "customization" - there's a problem of too many and too little. Too many options of guns layout, but to little effective ones. Reason 2: PvE and PvP are 2 separate things...Or should be. Every time a weapon is designed to be added to the game, there's a shift on balance, an OP weapon will be nerfed before is released just to not shift the meta too much. So, there won't be ever the feeling of greatness and power cuz, in PvP this feeling will be carry over, and those who have those weapons will rule and make everything just not fun or cool for those who haven't. Reason 3 Of the 3 class on the Destiny System, only Hunter's was made and balance for a PvP experience, and I get it, I have one myself, its a high mobile character, with a kit made to be an assassin or ranger like guardian, and I saw a few great Titans and Warlock, but its 60% Hunters , 25% Titans and 15% Warlock, in general. So, fighting against a high mobility character, who Can jump, and Run Faster there is a necessity of a high handling weapon to try to fight it, or a Shotgun like weapon and this is actually not cool, cuz this limits my layout options. In my opinion it's really easy to balance PvP 1-Removing Heavy ammo and replacing with Special Ammo - There's no surprise arguments, we all know why. It's unhealthy right now. 2 -Super's should be a high Risk - high reward system, so if u are using a super u should be vulnerable to damage, I mean , very vulnerable. A hunter should be running towards a team firing at him and jump and slashing everything so easily, and this should be equal to all class, so PvP players should be smart on use this "pwer" and not just a panic bottom or a Unfair System that can't be fighting against. And GOOD man, with all that "we lost our light, with Ghaul and etc, why not training to be a force who doesn't need the Traveler". 3-Only crucible weapon's alow and Pinnacle weapons stay in Competitive and PvE game. So if you want to use these powerfull PvP weapons you should, be, there's a place for it. A Crucible's only weapon its easy, just add a pre-combat phase where u can select it, or a prestige system that u can't use anything different for that. This would allow a more friendly system to balance weapon statistic and variety. After a few adjustments Iron Banner's weapon should be added as well and probable Trials too. Exotic's PvP should also stay in competitive! 4-Competitive Solo Q and Duo Q - no more fireteam playing together in competitive. 5- Rank System for Competitive rewarding those who can sustain long periods of time playing in Fable for example. 6 - More combat options and weekly challenge just like how prestige works today

So I shouldn't be allowed to play with my friends in my clan because you can't be -blam!-ed to get friends yourself. This has to be the dumbest post I've ever seen on these forums. And I've seen many a stupid post. Either that or some serious bait.

Some people just group up because they want to have fun, I do it myself. What's disgusting is the people 6 stacking w/ Lunas only fireteams

This post is gonna upset all the tryhard losers. Good Job!

They don’t have a big enough player base probably to do this as much as I agree with you

The fact that some people on these forums think that this game is “competitive” is just beyond me lmao

Just give up

[quote]This problem was in the game since the Beta. I'm quite convinced that it is the number 1 reason why players hate PvP and why so many refuse to play it.[/quote] the reason players hate pvp is because they don't work at it. i used to be the worst pvp ever and now i like to think i can hold my own. if people would work at it its a lot of fun. but people play one game and lose to someone who has worked at it and then complain it sucks. not the games fault you don't practice

4 stacks usually suck in my experience. Bungie said in a TWAB sometime in season 3/4 that stacks would be matched against people of higher glory to compensate for the fact that they're playing as a team and, in my experience, it works. I actually love seeing a 4 stack before the game starts.

Sure. Let's wait in orbit for an hour. That's fun. Quit being some lonely weirdo and find some friends to play with. A surprisingly large part of Crucible that has stacks are only people trying to have fun with friends, such as my fireteam.

The “connection based matchmaking system” places 1-2 very high elo or k/d players with the remaining players on the team being novices. They are attempting to create a guided-games scenario with the newer players. Without doing this the newer players won’t see amazing plays happen or end content gear. I don’t really know what the point of this is. IMO all this does is force the better players to sweat their asses off if they want to simply win a game. From personal experience I have dropped nearly 60 defeats in a game resulting in a loss because my entire team goes negative. This shouldn’t happen. I would rather sit in orbit waiting for an actual game with people who know how to play. The low tier players should all be in their own lobbies separate from the higher tier players.

No.