https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJrlnu7cG5s FANTASTIC comment section! Going to bed now, will post own thoughts later, but feel free to have at it (civilly) here/now. H o T h and Z a r d o z and the like...hopefully.... Echo and kely2 bytching at each other for no reason, perhaps as co-workers in some data center bought-and-paid-for to sow discord and strife on important topics like the polylogist deconstructionalists dey can be sometimes...not so much. The question can be a bit of a false dichotomy depending on definitions of words and then things break down between people with different definitions so try to define what one means FIRST then explain the thought process. BBL...G'night!