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2/18/2019 11:22:27 PM
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When do we talk about triumph seals being blocked by RNG?

It has been 30+ weeks of attempting to get Cursebreaker Triumph Seal. I have played countless hours of ascendent challenges and weekly story missions like the Oracle Engine and The Dark Courier. And week after week after week after week, I get no ghost shell and no sparrow. It has become exhausting to the point where Destiny is no longer fun to me and where I feel my opinion on RNG based triumph seals is being ignored. I am not the only one with the opinion that this requirement NEEDS to go, but I fear that it's merely falling on deaf ears and that none of the dev's cares that I have spent 30+ weeks trying to get this seal and still not have it...versus someone who isn't even trying to get it just magically has the ghost shell and the sparrow. It is incredibly frustrating and I've reached my wit's end. If this isn't fixed, I will no longer be playing Destiny 2 as a game because I do not feel supported as a player.

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  • The team is currently aware of this feedback, and looking at the Dreaming City, Last Wish, and Wayfarer seal objectives. Once we have more information, we will let you know.

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    • Lots of fun is prohibited by bad RNG in this game. The seals get a lot of attention because they impact the no-lifers and streamers. But seals aren’t the only bad RNG items that are driving players from the game.

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    • Haha foolish GUARDIAN, still scampering on that Hamster wheel, vainly hunting RNG titles. Jump off and take a breather, preferably on another game, only then will you see how stupid you've been.

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      • Actions speak louder than words!!!!! Not only do I feel the pain you have described but I'm now living it for two seals as well. Cursebreaker & Chronicler I have already [u]achieved[/u] & [u]earned[/u] the Dregden and Wayfarer seals. I have been actively, meticulously but (more accurate) "excessively" grinding for two seals for which I am only one item away on each. Cursebreaker & Chronicler BOTH SEALS ARE SUBJECT TO A COMPUTERIZED LOTTERY INAPPROPRIATELY CALLED R.N.G. Not only have I spent 90+ days (total accumulated time) playing this game since it's release in 2017, but I have completed each of the missions, events, strikes, raids, etc. required to earn the Dreaming City ship, and the "Truth to Power Lore" items but one RNG item eludes everyone due to the strike being pulled from rotation completely. That's hideous!!! There is a pulse rifle that has an extremely rare drop rate upon the completion of the "Corrupted Nightfall Strike". I believe I have only seen that strike be an available option about 3 times in six months. So, I'm not only blocked from "achieving" a well earned title by a randomized, slim chance at the reward, but because the Corrupted Nightfall hasn't been available for.....can't remember when.......I'm blocked from even grinding for it. In addition to that farce, I'm at a roadblock, which has absolutely nothing to do with my achievements but rather a computer's randomized brain farts. The Chronicler title its gated by the crap called RNG in reference to the "Truth to Power" lore. I just spent 4 hours grinding all three 650 characters in the Blind Well to get the "Gateway Between World's" completed to go see the Queen to acquire the last of 6 Lore tabs to complete the excessively tedious seal for the Chronicler title. I got 1 leaving me 5 to still acquire. After uncrossing my eyes because of completing 10 consecutive blind wells. I did the math and realized that if I visit the queen 3 times (the MAX allowed due to the bounty needed to access this and the only way to access this) on the 3rd week of the curse to get one truth to power lore tab. It will take me over 150 hours and 15 weeks to get 5 lore tabs. The time for the half-assed, platitudes and incompetent responses such as, "The team is currently aware of this feedback, and looking at the (whatever)" IS OVER. This MUST STOP Bungie! Anthem didn't steal me away from you, you ignored the one's who were true loyal fans and played religiously but weren't as loud as the "still living in mommy's basement till at 12-35, sweaty, try-hard, PVP only, hunter, sliding shot-gun only skill, no talent losers". It's a shame you couldn't find the balance so desperately needed between PVP & PVE. You've taken a great game and completely turned it upside down because one player mode suffers when the other is adjusted. We want answers and resolution for the hard work and time we've devoted to the game we love and you've given us a cold shoulder and closed ear. And so, by March 5th if resolution has not been announced, you will most likely see my exodus along with many more and without hesitation. Sorry to say it, but it will come to pass.

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      • I need shattered thrones ship and the corrupted purse rifle

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        • I feel your pain, having chased the Sparrow on three characters for weeks and weeks. It finally dropped for me this week, but it wasn't satisfying. After being so disheartened for so long, it was more a sense of "thank Christ's left nut that's over" if anything. RNG has zero place whatsoever in seals, which should be indicative of skill and dedication; not luck. I really hope both drop for you soon, pal. A sentiment I extend to every one of you chasing them.

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          • When you think "triumph" you think something [u]achieved[/u] by hard work and alot of effort. When you think "RnG" you think [u]received[/u] by a luck factor. SO the idea of putting a requirement on a Triumph that is a RNG based item that is also timegated so you cannot work hard to get it.... well lets say there is neither logic nor common sense in it. So all we can do is look for alternative reasons to do something like that. First i thought it was to create a hype and addiction effect on said item. But mayority will just get frustrated and annoyed, acomplishing the opposite. People don't complain a lot these days, they simply move on, so that would be a bad gaming-development strategy. Than i thought it might be to slow down progress. That makes most sense to me, make them waste time so they stay hooked on the game, chasing that elusive item. You see that coming back alot in destiny2. Loading times to the tower are horrible, yet every quest makes you go there after completing a step or 2, some even after every step. Recuiring trajectory medals for mountain top? doesn't count the ones you already had, doesn't count in Iron Banner... delay tactics. Chasing some competitive PvP quest, lets go back to orbit every time instead of Crucible match selection screen. Creating an economy to infuse armore and weapons... to make it meaningfull? no, it's to make you waste time. Make players waste time with deleting 380 gear, blue gear, double exotics, shaders, going back and forth to the tower for bounties, etc etc. all to make you waste time. These may seem minor, till you add the time spent on deleting them.. then it's hours, days, years. Most of it is simple to fix if they wanted to spare you time and frustration.

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            • We’re listening. [spoiler]but not really[/spoiler]

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            • this is what the devs are doing while D2 comunity gets ignored https://gamerant.com/destiny-fighting-game/

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            • “We’Re LiStEnInG aNd WiLl PaSs It AlOnG tO tHe ApPrOpRiAtE tEaMs” -Cozmo and Dmg pretending to listen as usual with their parroted responses about the ineptitude of the team.

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            • Mmmmm im not chasing that cursebreaker thing and i have the ship and sparrow, is unfair that ppl with effort and time on this task cant see it accomplished.

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            • RNG and triumph are two words that should not go together. I certainly didn't feel triumphant when I got wayfarer. I stopped playing for a month the day it dropped. But the biggest issue is bungies lack of attention to fixing the issues switching people off

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              • Edited by EzE_408: 2/19/2019 5:05:12 PM
                It’s too late to change it. For a number of reasons. While I am on the fence about this, one thing you can’t do is devalue those that worked really hard to get a particular title (and I am not talking about those that were very lucky).

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                • All anyone has to do is look up light.gg You can search for any item. Weapons, armor, ghosts, sparrows, ships. It will show you the percentage of players that have gotten that item. The dreaming city items alone have such an abysmal drop rate that it is beyond ridiculous. Rare is good. It gives the player that sense of awe when said item drops for them. But this RNG isn’t “rare”. It’s mathematically improbable.

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                • If you complete petras run all these rng items should be automatically given to you.

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                • I'm still hunting sleeper nodes for a chance at a braytech schematic drop for a chance at the 18 Kelvins sidearm, at least 7 warmind engrams in the last couple weeks and I keep getting the sniper, scout, and auto. I JUST NEED ONE MORE ITEM FOR WAYFARER, AND IT'S NOT DROPPING. If I already have the other three, there should be a higher chance of getting the sidearm, I'm tired of the duplicates

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                  • I don't know, I personally gave up on these a long time ago. Not interested in RNG based achievements.

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                    • [quote]When do we talk about triumph seals being blocked by RNG?[/quote] At the same time we have a frank discussion about why Cores need to stay in the cost of Infusion: roughly never. Well.... [i]maybe[/i] when Bungie needs to sell you something. Otherwise never.

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                    • My clanmate got the shell while clearing the ac today with me. It was like his 4th ac. He got the game free in late season 3 and got forsaken for Christmas. I’ve been doing it every week since September on all 3 characters. It’s all I need for curse breaker. Seeing it pop on his screen was a slap in the face. Even he felt bad because he knew about my situation. (Kicks rock)

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                      • just remove the sparrow, ship, and ghost completely, from every title. The hardest part should be the petras run

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                      • I need the pulse rifle from the corrupted strike. It'd be a f*cking treat if it turned up more than once every 2 months...

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                      • Well considering the triumph seals have only been available to obtain in the last 25 weeks I’m wondering how you’ve been trying for another 5+ weeks they weren’t even a thing. Odd.

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                        • I stopped trying. It’s so annoying.

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                        • I still can’t get the raid sparrow or the ship from shattered throne. It’s a little ridiculous.

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                        • I do find it amusing that Bungie produces a product for purchase (the seal pins) but then those seals require rng to finish. On top of the fact the the seal pins have a date of expiration where you can no longer get it. Seems like they’ve shot themselves in the foot just a little bit if they hoped to get some more sales of those pins.

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                          • There’s lots of blacksmith’s running around, wonder why that isn’t a pin yet

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