40 matches of gambit is not fun

5 matches a day. 8 days you are done. Seriously? This is the easiest weapon ever to get. My example is for a really lazy casual.

I did the weekly Gambit milestone to get a line on how long it would take to do the other steps, and at a guess, I will, as a crappy Gambit player, will finish all of them in something like 12-15 matches, conservatively. (I'm not exactly burning up the multi-kills, but I'm over halfway through the challenging enemies one.) The 40 matches requirement is a bit out of tune to the rest of them. At the pace I am going, I'm going to have over a thousand challenging enemy kills by the time I hit 40 matches.1100 or so enemy kills. Even with my low multi-kill pace I'm going to hit 240 of those. It's not difficult, but 20 is far more in keeping with the numbers you need for the rest of the quest. I mean, four matches a day you get it in 10 days, but I can see why people would afk a few.

4000 would be ridiculous. 40 is nothing. You can easily do them in one day without even being AFK.

I am curious how they are completing the other portions of the quest while afk? Wont they have to play a significant amount of additional games to get the auto kills (multi kills) and yellow bars?

[quote]ruining the experience for people who actually are playing because they enjoy the mode in addition to the quest.[/quote] The problem as you can see below is most people don't enjoy the mode. Bungie could fix that by making it fun. But that's not going to be a short term answer. I hate AFK players but after a few Gambit matches with 37 ahead I'm starting to think those AFK players have the right practical solution to being bribed to play an unenjoyable game mode. Either that or figure out the best way to consistently lose 37 matches in two rounds to keep the timing short. Don't worry I'll likely put together an LFG group of like minded people who just want to throw ~40 matches and get it over with. That's only going to be an issue going up against teams running the same strategy. I guess if that happens then one group will have to break from their plan and try to win.

Sometimes people invade at really dumb times because they are going for quest steps on Mal. I was invading any chance I could one night last week going for army of one. Got it done though. Definitely not proud of some of my invasions...some were even without heavy or super. mistakes were made. I'm sorry my poor teammates...

[quote][b]Main Topic of the Thread:[/b] over the past few gambit games i have noticed players being AFK and using various techniques to keep them from getting kicked, this is probably a result of the ridiculous requirement of completing 40 gambit matches in order to unlock breakneck, in my last game i had my whole team AFK Farming. this is obviously a problem and the fix i would implement is having to win 30 rounds (not games) in order to encourage participation and also to make it a bit more of a skill investment rather than the most tedious grind [i]Note: this will likely become a problem with strikes, If not already[/i] [b]whilst i'm on the internet bitching about gambit, here are some more problems:[/b] the primeval slayer buff from killing envoy's is poorly known (and is now being adressed) but not many people seem to know that killing invaders and blockers whilst the primeval is up also gives this buff revives in gambit are useful to keep your team up, however there is often not a lot of time to pick up a player before they are forcefully respawned, i would say remove the force respawn or increase time where players need to be revived but cannot respawn, also please add incentives to revive teammates such as a bounty, a buff, or letting some motes that were lost be regained if revived the HVT mechanic's are also poorly explained and HVT's are easily missed by players, highlighting the HVT with an affect similar to true sight or putting a yellow variant of the "enemies" symbol (obviously labeled HVT) where the target spawned Gambit Maps in their current state could probably be designed better. I'm not sure how, the maps feel lackluster general poor behaviour and skill of players (not fixable i know) such as; invading whilst the enemies have no motes and at other poor times, mindlessly picking up motes, etc. oh, and a question. ranking up in gambit gives point's for win's and losses, do you get more points the more rounds won or is a loss a loss and also is not getting points for losses after achieving Legend but still grinding points for reset a bug, or feature? i will probably update this thread with further complaints and possible fixes. but for now back to grinding the breakneck (BTW Bungie why no ornament?). [u][/u] Update: whilst the comments are mostly positive, there are a few that don't understand what this is really about, this is not complaining that the quest takes to long, it is more complaining that it is a time investment and not a skill investment, the problem with this is that it is leading to some players using cheap tactics (like putting something on the W key so they keep moving forward whilst staying in game and not getting kicked) so they don't have to be at the game and still get progress on the quest because it only requires participation, ruining the experience for people who actually are playing because they enjoy the mode in addition to the quest. [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in.  [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler][/quote] It isn’t an issue for the 40 matches—the “issue” is Bungie’s God-Forsaken servers. THAT needs to be addressed. You simply cannot get to the 40 match requirement if you are getting kicked EVERY time you try and play a Gambit match. And before any asinine comments about MY internet, please keep in mind that I can currently play any other activity in the game w/out getting booted. Gambit? Naw. Bungie is just kidding. I am currently on my FOURTH “suspension” because it is MY fault that Bungie is having problems w/THEIR servers. This has honestly eclipsed the level of stupidity I though was capable. Where is the “community manager” to address this issue?

I have the breakneck rifle and during my 40 games I only saw one player on my side who was AFK and that was for half a round maybe less ... The real issue I thought during all of this was Bungies so called “INCREASED” meatball boss spawn rate during full curse week... I only required the ship to complete Dregden title yet I was 34 games into the 40 before I even saw a single instance of it.. I think something is broken there

How do you "fix" the fact that people are lazy and don't want to work for things? The point is that shitty people are shitty people. Lazy people are lazy people. If you make it an investment grind.....they'll take shortcuts. If you make it a skill situation.....they'll cheat. So the only "fix" here is to evolve a better human being..... ...and that's one you'll have to take up with The Designer.

the fix is for bungie to make reasonable grinds instead of burnout crap like this

Gambit's biggest flaw is a catch-22. There is no real incentive to win, but if they incentivize winning the way they do in Competitive, no one would play. We are always going to be stuck with a pretty mediocre Gambit mode. Everyone who thought this mode was going to be some kind of breakthrough in gaming was dead-ass wrong. What looked good on paper just didn't translate to practice because Bungie overlooked one crucial element -- their community of players is pretty bad. True story.

Personally nothing that is quest related to pinnacle weapons should be gated behind games played, games won, or even resets. Since this a gambit topic, I'll say that bungie should've not used the games played but instead used steps like : Deposit 500 motes total Win 25 rounds of gambit Get xXxX amount of kills with xXxX. Those are just some examples. The way it's setup now just promotes all the ill will, cheating, cheeses, recoveries etc. Hopefully next season they put more thought into the steps taken to get these weapons.

I'm loving this. I don't care one bit about gambit and nearly every player on the random teams I play with don't care. And this give the teams easy wins so everyone wins. If you give a shit about wining join a fireteam but if you're just playing to finish the bounty it's awesome.