Compared to D1 and to pc, console recoil is ridiculous. Hand cannons are basically 180, because the others are so unstable you need some serious thumb workout to hit the 3 precision shots. Auto rifles and smgs are so inconsistent that you’re not fighting your enemy, you’re fighting the recoil. This weapons don’t stand a chance against 180 hc, pulse rifles or shotguns. Recoil must be fixed.