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8/18/2018 9:47:43 PM
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Clarification About the Ascendant Realms and Forsaken Threads
<I'm a little tired so I'm going to list this stuff rapid-fire.
1. Making a pact with the Worms are not the only method to getting a Throne World.
2. The Worm Gods do not own the Ascendant Plane. Instead residing close to its actual owner, the Darkness. The Darkness is the Deep and the Deep is the center. Beings are Taken by being brought before the Deep by the being who wields the ability. The Blights are portals to the Ascendant Realm, confirmed on Io.
3. Mara Sov and Oryx at some point during the Taken War entered each others thrones. Mara presumably at the time of the Dreadnaught blast and Oryx sometime between that and King's Fall... his death. Side note, the Reverie Dawn set confirms Oryx is truly dead.
4. Mara Sov does have a throne world connected to the Dreaming City. Why does she have it? Unknown. How did she get it? We all saw the Harbingers. She even by herself is immensely powerful, even if sometimes the Techuens need to help channel the energy. Not to mention that Awoken are half Light and half Dark. Do I need to remind anyone what controls the Ascendant Plane? Also murdering half a Fallen fleet maybe had something to do with it...
5. [quote]This creature is all teeth and broken promises, transformed by the expectations of another scheming, secretive sister.[/quote]
Mara's perspective in third person reviewing the Dreaming City and what has happened. This creature has been Taken by a "scheming, secretive sister". Anyone who remembers who the Taken belong to post-Oryx and Malok know who that sister is.
6. The Mindbender was exposed to Hive tech and power for an undefined period of time. Any Dreg willing to survive will learn how things work. Dreg-strength. If he gets a Throne World from spending a lot of time in the pit, I wouldn't question it. The Hive draw their power from the Worms who use the [b]Darkness[/b]. *COUGH COUGH*
[b]Conclusion:[/b]
There is no reason to question the Mindbender's strength until we know how long he was in there or what he actually did.
Mara has a throne world.
Oryx mucked about in her throne world while she was in his.
Savathun has entered her throne world and Taken important beings.
Savathun and Mara Sov are separate entities.
The Darkness owns the AP, so all you should really need is some Darkness ability and power through the Sword to get a Throne World.
Are we good?>
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1 ReplyI'm confused I didn't read anywhere that said Mara Sov made a throne world I thought it was just a regular city and Oryx appeared in the city and tried to bring it into his own throne world and failed causing it to be trapped between the real world and the oryx's ascendant plane
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THANK.... GOD! FINALLY SOMEONE WITH BRAINS!
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5 RepliesMara has a throne world. You've actually provided no evidence for that. I'm still not convinced.
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As always. Great job.
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Do you not know how to mark spoilers?
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2 RepliesPlease add a spoiler tag and/or add that to the title. Thanks.
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I'm an aborted fetus and I feel alive again.
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7 RepliesI don’t know if this is a stupid question or not, but how do we know that Mara has a thrown world and she and oryx messed around in each others’? Not doubting you, just want to know the source of the info cuz I must’ve missed that
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7 RepliesMy hope for this franchise is that during the last missions I get pissed with killing for the light and tired of killing the dark and turn against them both. Taking out both the traveller and the darkness and unifying them both thus ending all the slaughter done in there name. I sit a magnificent and powerful being overlooking the universe and it's perfect balance. Or is it???
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1 ReplyAnd the good thing to remember about all this....non of it will be in the main game because it only makes sense to lore junkies not the casual fan base that bungie appeals to 😂👍
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4 Replieslol we are fighting taken a Ahamakra. finally something taken that isn't boring
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2 RepliesAscendant Realm = Taken elevator [i]Plays taken elevator music[/i]
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4 Replieshopefully this reduces all the ridiculous "savathun is actually....." speculation. I'm going to guess her throne world was where she kept the harbingers, i wonder if we will see the last one.
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6 RepliesEdited by Surprised Brony: 8/19/2018 9:24:38 AMI've gotta admit, the story is pretty damn intense. Might not be the best or well-planned, but it turned out okay to me. Just...trying to wrap your head around the awoken, hive, or vex is almost too much. Just pick one and try to understand as well as a human can. It ain't easy. I like that. Also, thanks for the clarification.
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1 ReplyThis is just dumb. Not your post, but this backwards ass made up on the fly story. It is probably best for that they are not making anymore cutscenes after this.
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2 RepliesThis was awesome! Thanks! I have one question, though. When Mara supposedly "dies" in that awesome cut-scene battle, did she slip into her throne world before she could be killed? I'm sure somebody already answered this, but my head is spinning at all of this information already. Also, does Uldren know she has a throne world/is in it? That would seriously change his possible motives in Forsaken.
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1 ReplyNice you put the time and effort in only for bungie to not respond. I can honestly say I have no clue what you are on about. I have seen a cut scene or read anything to do with lore in any game. I like to shoot thing. And only watch a scene if forced to.
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I tried to keep up but there were too many “anyone who remembers “ or other broad assumptions/cough winks.
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You should make your own tag whenever you lore posts. Something like #ArchivalMind that way I can find all of them
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it makes sense she has a throne world. It being hinted.
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5 RepliesI find it incredibly interesting they revealed that Mara Sov had her own throne world. Like who knows what she had within it but it also draws the question, could we technically create a throne world? Given we’ve made gods fall and are following the sword logic by killing?
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You’re a beast at lore
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Edited by dougisjericho: 8/19/2018 4:48:48 PMWell then. First time I read those tabs I assumed she was skirting through savathun's throne world when she talks about predicting eventualities. I see I was wrong now. We still don't know exactly what Mara is, but it sure seems savathun does. This isn't the first time savathun has desecrated someone else's throne world, albeit less obviously. Mara must be truly powerful if a hive goddess feels the need to go to such lengths.
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1 ReplyKnowing your [i]uh[/i]... passion for Ahamkara, how does the bit nearly confirming it make you feel? [i]Just interested, nothing more.[/i]
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Archival mind is correct Certified by Lore Master [i]Captain Rex[/i]
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[quote]Oryx mucked about in her throne world while she was in his.[/quote] Now I'm really mad that I didn't kill Oryx in D1. Bastard was influencing my woman from behind my back!
