I find it really hard to follow your arguments. You have a general idea that D2 is less rewarding than D1, because everyone can get cool stuff without any effort/little effort. This is what being brought up almost in every thread on this forum. But I just don't get the correlation between these things: [quote]Well dang, why would I be wasting that much value... ...That time could be used to make you more valuable to yourself and those you care about (Friends and family). This is where things in Destiny come in. Why would you spend hours every week to play VoG?... ...The answer is because you are making yourself more valuable. By getting the perfect role and weapon when others can't shows that you are willing to put the time in and that you are competent... ...Destiny 2 shows an example of socialism, where it doesn't really matter where you are or what you're doing. The loot will come either through that engram that a dreg dropped or through Hawthorne when a clanmate puts in his 80 hours to complete the raids week after week. Did you earn your loot then? No, not the same way your clanmate did. So when your clanmate sees you in the future, will he doubt how you got that armor and weapon? Yes. Is that loot worth your time then? No. [/quote] First things first, if you spend your free time to make yourself a better person i.e. improve your skills that can help you do your job better, or learn new things like playing an ukulele, so that everyone wants to hang out with you, you don't get a magic aura around your head that screams "i've spent a lot of time doing some stuff". You just do your job better and/or play your ukulele. People that you work with respect you for you are doing, and people you hang out like you because you are fun/interesting person. Rewards that you earn != your in game skill. I don't get these analogies with capitalism and socialism in regards to making yourself more valuable player. Just like irl you don't judje a person solely by his income, you don't judje a player in the game solely by his gear. You judje them by how skillful they are, and in this case it shouldn't be relevant what gear they have. If you put 60 hours into the game every week, you may have more polished skills than a person who plays half an hour every two days. But guess what? Some players can get carried through the raid/trials and get all the shiny exotic stuff, but they still are going to suck at the game and their value as a player would be low. If you want to be more valuable, then hone your skills, and play the game. If you want shiny stuff that indicates that you are infinitely better than other players in this game, then I'm really sorry, but there is no reliable way to tell this, so you get same shiny stuff that everyone gets. In my book, the only value a player holds is his skill. Skill != shiny exotic gear. Game should focus on increasing skillcap, not on giving op stuff to scrubs who got carried and can "FEEL POWERFUL" because of that. I don't get this complain "I don't feel powerful as a guardian", "my titan doesn't feel powerful enough". Get better, your power is in your hands, given that the game provides depth. Because that's what developers should focus on [i]depth, balance, diversity[/i]. Because that's what would allow better players to distinguish themselves from worse players. That is what sets the skillcap. The only way to be powerful is to be a better player. [i]Outaim[/i] [i]outsmart[/i] and [i]outplay[/i] your opponents, utilize your knowledge of the game and teamwork to overcome challenges that game throws at you. Exotics should provide an alternative playstyle, alter your perks and skills, give you more ways to play the game. Sure, devs can make them hard to get, but if only a few people can get them, what diversity are we talking about? If we are using them only as a novelty item, that show's off our commitment to the game, then, i don't know what's the point. I sure don't need no shiny stuff to show others that I play the game. I want to beat their ass in crucible and beat their scores in nightfall. That would be enough for me to play the game on a daily basis. If you play the game in anticipation that it would allow you to show off some rare stuff to other players, and you don't play the game for the gameplay and for sake of playing, well it's you who doesn't value your own time. You'd better be with your friends and family, or learn how to play damn ukulele. Cheers.