My son (EpicIornShark) and I played D1 for 400/800+ hours. He's only played D2 for 69. https://www.wastedondestiny.com/search/epicironshark
https://www.wastedondestiny.com/search/juicy360
Yesterday I begged him to play Crimson PVP with me. We did and had fun for about an hour. Then he was done. He said. "I wish I could play Destiny 1 again." I said you can it's still on the PS4. He said: "No I mean I wish I could relive that moment when it was 4am and we did the vault of glass and I got the Gjalahorn drop from the chest. I screamed like a little girl. It was the happiest moment of my life. And I was a god afterwards with it.". He lamented "sadly those moments are gone. [b]Balance is boring[/b]! I wish they'd break the game again and make it fun".
I love the Destiny universe but it does feel slow and boring at times. Every scout riffle I get, no matter what it is, DLC, Raid, etc doesn't seem to surpass the Nameless Midnight I've been using since mission one. Same with kinetic auto riffles, hand canons, etc. I got the best ones with in a few hours of the game and all others are just eye candy. I so wish there was a true progression of power in the weapons and armor. Nameless midnight should not still be a tier 1 riffle. Better versions should have been out from the raid or DLC. Yes in D1 everyone used the Vision of Confluence when they got it. It was amazing and awesome. It was something to grind for.
IMO the perfect "balance" would be new weapons increase damage output and give you god like moments until the next level increase buff's all enemies. Then new weapons are needed, but like in D1 you have the option to grind for materials that let you bring your trusty favorite with you if you desire.
Now I'm never excited about getting a new weapon for the first time. I know there is a 99.9% chance it won't be better than Nameless Midnight, Better Devils, Uriel's Gift, Sins of the Past. I could shard everything in my vault, but these 4 and my gameplay would not change at all in PVP or PVE. No raid specific perks, no over powered sunbreakers, or gjallahorns to look forward to. Just reskins of lesser stat guns. And no way to reroll a gun with potential to "god like" because that would break the balance?
D1 had it's painful grinds, I'm not advocating for all those back. D2 has some very good changes. But they cut too far the other way. It's just not as exciting in PVP or PVE beyond the basic sandbox shooting satisfaction.
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So your kid is 17, and the happiest moment of his life was Getty Gally in D1? If true, that’s more indictment of your parenting than D2.
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I dont get all that gjallerhorn hype. When i got it i was like "oh a new exotic" And then i used truth because it was more fun.
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That was the happiest moment of his life?
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Totally agree fellow guardian, sad but true, peace
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There’s one of those you call “kids” brewing inside my balls atm. Gotta wait a few years in the oven before serving it up to the real world.
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I am a single father of four and my boys also played D2. That's right, I said played. We had so much fun in D1 and I was so excited for D2. My boys were big trials players. After the launch of D2 they went flawless a bunch and then the issue with the emote came up. They waited the two weeks and then started playing again. They quickly grew tired of the DDOS attacks and LAG in Trials. Long story short, we traded in their 4 copies of D2 at GameStop and went for ice cream with the cash. Good old dad is the only one that still plays. It's a bummer!!!
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I wish they would make it to have random rolls instead of static rolls on weapons. That would at least give me the hope that the next weapon I get could be better than the one I have already. Also, I'm just not a big fan of the kinetic, energy, power slots; it makes the game play for me too slow. I put over a month of time on my Titan alone in Destiny 1 but nowhere near that in Destiny 2. The loot just is not worth the work.
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I remember the first time beating raid bosses in D1. It was special, the drop of the exotic that truly was exotic. Those are the moments you play for. D2 does not have those, which is sad
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2500+ on Destiny 1 120 on Destiny 2
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I have 793 on D2
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Too much text I couldn't finish. I got to nameless midnight being unsurpassable and I wanted to stop and help you right there... nameless midnight had a promiscuous lover and that lover was the mida-multi tool. They had a love child and named it purpose It's amazing. Explosive rounds, 200rpm, and makes the best pew pew sound ever.
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My sons is barely 2 months old and he’d probably feel the same way
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I play with my sons too. The change in excitement is the same in my house. Too much liberal group think going on at Bungie's HQ is the problem. It's all about being equal and feeling good about yourself now....anyways, try out the sr4, it blows nameless midnight away.
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I'm with you. I miss my own D1 moments. Aquiring hawkmoon on my first nightfall. Beating the brothers nightfall with only one other person during a solar burn. Getting a god rolled eyasluna. Clearing crota once just for the nechrocasm. D2 has none of those type moments for me. Weapons are boring. No real hero moments.
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Would be more impactful if you said your kid was like 13.
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My eldest son and all of his friends on PS4 played D1. I raided and pvp'd with them ..it was enormous fun. They All bought D2 as did I! None of them now play and I very much doubt they will return. So sad.
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Play Monster Hunter World with your kid and have crazy, wild, memorable moments every single day :)
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Your son sounds immature for a 17 year old.
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I'm honestly trying to figure out how you had a Nameless Midnight in mission 1.
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Destiny 2 needs the developers saying: "-blam!- it. Make them gods!" Embrace the breakage and let us run rampant with our skills and weapons.
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Same here - my kid played D2 through the story and a few hours after before telling me it was boring and moving on to fortnite... They don't know how to give us moments anymore - fate bringer, mythocast, first exotic, thorn quest completion - and my personal best gaming moment of all time completing black spindle with 3 seconds left... that was fun and meaningful - D2 ratking, acrius.... they just pale in comparison...
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I have 2 (now) teenage sons. We actually fought D1 as an xmas present years back for the older one. We used to always play together, had a consistent 3 man fire team. One totally lost interest after the Y1 debacle where all the guns got left behind. The other dropped at D2 because the game back groggy and slow, and all the weapons are very meh. I don't know who D2 was made for. It doesn't suit any of the play styles we developed for D1, and seems to be a huge step back from the original.
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Hey juicy, just FYI, I sent you a message concerning the raid on PSN. And I know exactly how your son feels
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As a single dad that loves playing games with my son, I can completely relate, and am saddened too for the void D2 created after D1.
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I agree with the sentiment of much of your post. However, do you realise that your statement: "I know there is a 99.9% chance it won't be better than Nameless Midnight, Better Devils, Uriel's Gift, Sins of the Past. I could shard everything in my vault, but these 4 and my gameplay would not change at all in PVP or PVE" Applies just as equally to the gjallarhorn you revere so highly from Destiny 1? I mean, another rocket launcher drop in D1 wasn't going to replace gjallarhorn. Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people just want overpowered stuff. Destiny 2 is nowhere near perfect, or even near "very good", but i actually like the direction they've taken with making weapons more balanced. Except uriel's gift. That's utterly broken.
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I miss playing destiny with my daughter. We did everything. I played 7500 hours in destiny 1 and I actually stop logging in at all now . She doesn’t play either. It’s sad for me because we’d bond together playing and now that’s not an option. Destiny 2 is a disappointment and Luke smith has stripped us of the fun that was destiny