Why so serious? The whole point of my "pompous" comment is that anyone who feels the need to boycott a video game on a given night of the week is taking that game too seriously. They need to get out of the house, interact with some other people and put things in their proper perspective.
But by all means, continue to focus on inconsequential details like booze and bars. Like I said, you've completely missed the point.
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No, the point is that lots of us interact socially with people BY playing video games. But the fact that it's a video game is meaningless. You didn't even address the scenario I presented, if you go out somewhere and they treat you like shit are you going to continue to go there? Better yet, the bar regularly plays rock music, which is why you go there, you like rock. But suddenly, to try and get more customers, the owner starts playing country, which you hate. Are you going to continue going to the bar? Are you going to ask the manager why, after you've been a patron for 3 years, he suddenly starts playing music you and all your friends hate? Or are you going to keep going to that bar and just deal with the bad music - meanwhile half of your friends have stopped going to the bar because they hate the music, too. So now you have to deal with less of your friends being there and listen to bad music. You can take this analogy to literally anything. It just so happens that Destiny 1 was my favorite game "bar" of all time. We've tried other games "bars" but simply nothing is as good as what our favorite game "bar" used to be. Sure, maybe we can start taking Yoga classes together on Friday nights, I hear that's good for the soul, too. But I'd rather fight to get the game "bar" back that I loved so much.
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When a pub I like changes to something I don't like, we change pubs. We don't boycott Fridays and demand that the pub goes back to the old business plan.
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Yeah, but this pub happened to be at the perfect location between you and all your friends, it had great food and service, you've known the bartender for years, there's a big open area for pool tables and darts, Your dad's first job was at this pub and he met your mom there, and the next closest pub is a 15 minute drive instead of you being able to walk there. Everything is great except the owner keeps changing things little by little trying to get different crowds to come to his pub, and those changes aren't actually bringing in new people anyway! Less and less people are coming to the pub until it's just you and you have to beg a couple of guys to come there and play pool (raid) with you. My friends list on D1 was constantly 3-4 pages full. I actually thought about getting on to raid the other day on Tuesday night, a night when getting a group of 6 together out of the 40 friends I had on would have been easy.... there was literally no one playing the game. Sorry, but pubs aren't fun when you're the only one there.
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Of course pubs are not fun when you are the only one there. The whole point of going was the face to face social interaction. You're trying way too hard to twist this into an analogy for D2. I don't know, maybe you live in a rural area and pubs are scarce. I live in a large city, pubs are everywhere. Don't like the one you are at? Leave and find a better one. Its pretty straightforward.
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Edited by PapaSohan: 1/2/2018 9:38:27 PMIt's not really twisting, I'm trying to get you to see our point of view instead of only seeing the world through your own eyes. You assume everything you experience is the same as what everyone else is experiencing or should experience. You assumed that the OP should go to the pub rather than play video games on Friday nights, well what if he is a former alcoholic or he has social anxiety around large crowds? What if he is disabled? What if he does live in a rural area, or even a country, where there aren't any pubs around. A lot of the dissent you hear on the forums are from people whose favorite game of all time was D1 and who have been massively let down and even feel swindled by D2. Instead of the response of 'go get some friends' why don't you stop assuming you know OP's life and try to understand why we're frustrated. And if you disagree, state why you disagree. But telling OP (or a large amount of the people on the forums) that he should just go out to the pub instead of spend time trying to fix a game he loves is down right ignorant on your part, because you don't know shit about OP's life. And right now, for me, D2 is an empty pub. All the many friends I've made over the years are playing other games, as am I.
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I've seen your point of view. The very idea that you think you can "fix" D2 is hilarious. Its a $60 piece of entertainment. If its not actually entertaining you, chalk it up as a bad purchase and move on. This whole "crusade" thing is yet another sign of you guys taking this game way too seriously.
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You are definitely wrong if you think movements on the forums have not and will not get Bungie (and other game developers) to change things about their games. In fact, forum feedback is one of the main things that the live team evaluated during all of D1 to make changes to the game. And look at what they've already done to D2, adding in Masterworks and other things specifically to address complaints made by large numbers of people on these very forums. In may cases, developers WANT us to be passionate about the game and give feedback on how to make it better (although in this case they probably aren't enjoying all the hate against their cash cow). I stopped playing D2 a full two months ago. Me, and many others, are here stating the things we would need them to fix for us to come back, and Bungie has literally thanked us over and over for the feedback in their weekly posts. They are lucky, because a lot of people love the potential that this game has. I bought and played The Division for a month and realized it had 1000 flaws as well, so I stopped playing and chalked it up to a bad purchase exactly like you said. But what many of us see in D2 is the potential for a great game, like D1 ended up becoming, that's why we're here. What we don't need is bull shit from a guy like you who thinks they know our lives. Is there something wrong with me going out on Saturday night and socializing and playing on Friday? What if OP moved the strike day to Saturday, or Tuesday, would that appease you? Again, you just assume that everyone has (or should have) the same life and schedule as you and that Fridays are meant solely for partying out with your friends. If you disagree with OP's boycott (which we all know is never going to actually happen), then say that. But don't assume you know OPs life, we are here discussing video games on a video game developer's forum.
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Holy. -blam!-ing. Shit. Like I said, way too seriously. Most of the people who replied to my comment understood the spirit in which it was delivered. You took it personally, didn't you? You know what? I apologize. Sorry for trying to have a little fun here, sorry for not analyzing every single word of my post to make sure it was PC and as non-offensive or denominational as possible. I forgot to consider all 6 billion perspectives on this planet when making a light-hearted comment about drinking on a Friday instead of gaming. Enjoy your evening.
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The point is that your comment had nothing to do with what OP said and was totally irrelevant. We like to game on Fridays, you like to drink. It was a pointless comment. We are allowed to be passionate about what we do for enjoyment, it's stupid to just say, eh, forget about this thing you are passionate about and go drink instead. And no, I'm not way too serious, I'm exactly the amount of serious that I want to be. I just happen to think that your comment was irrelevant and distracting from the topic at hand. What if everyone's answer to everything was, dude, why do you bother, just go out to the pub and forget all your problems. We'd never get anything done. I mean, why did you bother to reply to OP or reply to my comment 6 times, you could have been at the pub instead of bothering with us losers.