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Edited by Fal Chavam:
12/31/2017 3:42:45 AM
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Question of the day.
The very first thing I thought of after defeating panoptes: Is he really dead?
(Severe Oryx discussion flashback)
Anyway, there is a couple reasons I ask this. One of those reason is, we fought panoptes [b]inside[/b] the simulation. I don't mean to be that guy, but maybe what we killed was just a simulation, or maybe it wasn't.
However, point 2: let's assume Panoptes WAS really destroyed. In theory, could the vex not just make a realistic copy of Panoptes in the simulation and take it over. Sagira said the simulations were real enough to kill you. If they can make a realistoc copy of almost anything, why not a replacement Panoptes?
And if they're afraid of the simulant Panoptes being immediately found, could they not just alter it slightly so it would take just a little more time to find? Alternatively, could they not just make a bunch of simulant Panoptes?
Possible explination for that could be something along the lines of Panoptes being a special case in terms of simulating, or maybe a simulated Panoptes can't take control of the simulation.
Bonus question: So if the stuff inside the simulation is realistic and act like they would in the real world, could the things inside theoretically leave the simulation? If they could, would that maybe explain where the vex get their plethora of troops?
However, that would also mean the vex actually have controlled simulant Fallen, Cabal, and maybe hive leaders.
However(x2) maybe that is exactly how Panoptes dark future came to be. Total annihilation from within would be a game ender.
But, the more likely stance on that is the simulated stuff can't exists outside the simulation becuase they require power from it or something like that.
Props to the person(s) who can enlighten us on this subject.
Sincerely,
Fal Chavam.
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Edited by Smallershrub: 12/31/2017 4:31:51 PMWhile panoptes was in the simulation, he was the one running them. According to sagira after she looked at the map, he was always at the same place (think of it like the helm of the ship) The obvious concern: Was it a simulation? No, because as it was said multiple times in the campaign the vex were not able to predict our endeavors in the forest. Our interactions created so many new variables so quickly that they couldn’t run simulations for them before we had introduced another variable. Panoptes knew this, so he tried to take matters into his own hands by stopping us in the forest twice. Once when we saw the dark future, and once when we got the map. Panoptes was panicked and urgent because he knew he couldn’t simulate the alternatives effectively or efficiently enough to actually stop us in time. If panoptes was alive, more simulations would continue, Osiris would realize that and we would know that he’s still alive somewhere in some form. So we killed panoptes, can he be simulated again? Likely no, because the only mind that would have enough information on panoptes and the forest was panoptes himself (I understand it’s a collective mind, but lesser constructs can only do specific actions and store finite amounts of data). There could possibly be a restorative mind to develop, but with Osiris controlling the forest he would let us know or deal with the issue himself before it became effective.
