The very first thing I thought of after defeating panoptes: Is he really dead? (Severe Oryx discussion flashback) Anyway, there is a couple reasons I ask this. One of those reason is, we fought panoptes [b]inside[/b] the simulation. I don't mean to be that guy, but maybe what we killed was just a simulation, or maybe it wasn't. However, point 2: let's assume Panoptes WAS really destroyed. In theory, could the vex not just make a realistic copy of Panoptes in the simulation and take it over. Sagira said the simulations were real enough to kill you. If they can make a realistoc copy of almost anything, why not a replacement Panoptes? And if they're afraid of the simulant Panoptes being immediately found, could they not just alter it slightly so it would take just a little more time to find? Alternatively, could they not just make a bunch of simulant Panoptes? Possible explination for that could be something along the lines of Panoptes being a special case in terms of simulating, or maybe a simulated Panoptes can't take control of the simulation. Bonus question: So if the stuff inside the simulation is realistic and act like they would in the real world, could the things inside theoretically leave the simulation? If they could, would that maybe explain where the vex get their plethora of troops? However, that would also mean the vex actually have controlled simulant Fallen, Cabal, and maybe hive leaders. However(x2) maybe that is exactly how Panoptes dark future came to be. Total annihilation from within would be a game ender. But, the more likely stance on that is the simulated stuff can't exists outside the simulation becuase they require power from it or something like that. Props to the person(s) who can enlighten us on this subject. Sincerely, Fal Chavam.