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Edited by Chastice: 11/23/2017 7:24:08 PM
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Calling all electricians!

I’d like to preface this by saying that I don’t expect a single response to this question, but since nobody around me seems to know... Ceiling fan installation! The fan box in my ceiling has the following colored wires: white, black and RED (there is no grounding wire - no bare copper or green). I can’t find a diagram or instructions that mention red (why!?!). The fan has the requisite white, black and blue. I have one wall switch, not two. So... how do I wire this thing so that the wall switch controls the lights on the fan, but I can use the pull string for the fan blades regardless of the wall switch (this was how the previous fan was set up, and no, I didn’t pay attention while taking the old one down due to how simple I found the instructions to be. Stupid me)? Edit: the instructions say to twist the blue and black wires from the fan together, and then twist those around the black wire from the ceiling fan box. White to white also, as they are supposed to be neutral. It leaves the red wire unaccounted for, and (from what I gather) the red is always hot, unlike the black which is hit when the wall switch is on. If it matters, the fan is of the Hunter brand. Final edit: Thanks for all the input. Turns out that red IS always hot. I had it wired correctly the second time (black to blue and red to black) but the bulb I was using as a test after running from the second floor to the basement was defective (the other three where fine, guess my luck is just that good). Anyway.... it’s alive!!!!!

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  • THIS IS THE RANDOM SHIT WE NEED TO SEE ON OFFTOPIC. YOUR’E A MODEL OFFTOPICAN.

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  • Edited by PINKIN757: 11/20/2017 12:39:37 AM
    Red wire in junction is normaly for a lig ht kit , so if wanted can have fan and light controled by two switchs, the blue on the fan is for the light , black is for fan itself, simce i saw u have one switch, if tie blue and black wire on the fan together, wire nut (nothing tied to it) the red wire in the junction box, and the blue and black wire from the fan tie to the black wire in the junction, if the switch doesnt work then use the red as feed , if ur fan doesnt use a light kit , juz wire nut the blue wire and leave it alone

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  • I'm not an electrician, but I'll put my two cents in. One is hot one is ground. Gotta find out which. The wires of your fan will be power to fan, power to lights, and ground. Gotta find out which. Then just wire hot to hot and ground to ground. Easy peasy

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  • Bump for info, I am going to he installing a ceiling fan for my roommate soon so I'm glad this is a topic haha.

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  • Edited by Calculus-Entropy: 11/20/2017 2:24:21 AM
    My own 2¢... Common ceiling junction box- Black is always "on" hot Red is switched hot White is neutral Box itself (if steel) is also a ground Black and red can sometimes be flipped around depending on who wired it. The fan should have a ground wire to go to the green screw in the ceiling box. No green screw? Get one. Plastic junction box? You should then have a green wire in the box to provide a ground. Easiest (safest) thing do do is use a multimeter to ID the wires first (it'll save you from mounting the fan 3 different times while you get it right). [spoiler]of course have an electrician do it if you're not sure, but sounds like you're pretty well into it already[/spoiler]

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  • I sincerely hope this does not become one of those; "hindsight is always 20/20" Fiasco's. Because after reading all of the conflicting comments on this post, (if you choose to follow through on any of this advice) it is plausible that you risk burning your house down, or electrocuting yourself. Best advice given so far... hire an electrician.

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  • CUT THE BLUE WIRE

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    • My advice is call a real electrician. It may cost you but it’ll cost you more if you burn your house down doing it yourself.

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    • Edited by Lynx7386: 11/20/2017 9:31:03 PM
      I work in multifamily housing maintenance and have replaced dozens of ceiling fans. Your white and black wires will always go together - those are power and neutral for the fan. The red wire goes with blue, that's power for the light kit. Ground (green) will be attached to a grounding screw on the mounting bracket. Hope that helps Edit: does your switchplate on the wall have separate switches for light and fan? Didn't take that into account. Instructions above are only if that's a yes.

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      • I'm not an electrician, but I've changed a light bulb once.

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        • And this is why we refer to electrical engineers as -blam!-ing memelords. “But m-m-m-muh circuit diagwam d-d-doesn’t have no red or green colors!”

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          • Yeah...

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            • Burn down a tree and scatter the ashes on your neighbors yard, this should do the trick [spoiler]don’t take my advice, it won’t work sorry[/spoiler]

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              • Just tie them all together. If you don't start a fire you did good

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                • I thought this was a troll or something at first but then I was like, oh damn, this is real[spoiler]sry I didn’t read any of it[/spoiler]

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                  • Buy an electrical multi-meter for like $10 and figure out using that which wire is which. The wiring could be set up in a number of ways though, common earth or common live with individual switched supply / neutral. or it could have live / neutral and an earth. My instinct tells me the black will be neutral in both cases. Red was "traditional" live so I'd expect that to be live. just get the multi-meter on it and figure it out.

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                    • Are there instructions for the new fan? It might identify the wires.

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