yes because any one of us, at any time, said "everything ever said by Bungie past, present, and future are lies", dummy. You are refusing to acknowledge they do in fact lie, we brought evidence of said lies, now your rebuttal is that they don't lie every time they speak? lol nice.

You guys wanna cal this a lie no matter what because you're Bungie hating cheerleaders yourselves. Talk about pot calling the kettle black... [quote]You are refusing to acknowledge they do in fact lie, we brought evidence of said lies, now your rebuttal is that they don't lie every time they speak?[/quote] You've automatically concluded Bungie is lying based on that and a few other examples people have given, so I say again, just because you come up with an example of a lie that doesn't make other things they say lies simply because you want to believe they are.

I'm a bungie hating cheerleader? Weird. I must have missed the memo when I played D1 for 700 hours and praised the game for years, as well as bought the $130 version of Destiny 2. Anyone who doesn't like the direction of the game, or wants to hold a MASSIVE developer and it's filthy rich publisher to task - is a bungie hating cheerleader. Gotcha. I was sold this franchise as "An open world MMORPG shooter" and now, after I purchased D2 mind you, they are calling it a "collector's game". Another lie, but we should ignore that right? Paying customers don't deserve to be disappointed at something they paid for and be passionate about what it should/could be. Also I never said they were lying, I simply made a comment in satire how they've been telling the absolute truth lately. How you took what I said and came up with "everything ever said by Bungie past, present, and future are lies" is beyond me, but you are welcome to your opinion.

[quote]Anyone who doesn't ...[/quote] I'm claiming [i]anyone[/i] now? No, just the ones posting lists of lies and "lies" in order to defend the OP and others who want to believe Bungie is lying. [quote]is a bungie hating cheerleader. Gotcha.[/quote] If I'm a "Bungie cheerleader" just because you say so, then it's only fair I can label you too. [quote]I was sold this franchise as "An open world MMORPG shooter" and now after I purchased D2 mind you, they are calling it a "collector's game". Another lie, but we should ignore that right[/quote] Yes, because neither are a lie, you just don't personally [i]accept[/i] the labels. [quote]Paying customers don't deserve to be disappointed at something they paid for and love what it could be.[/quote] You're making a completely different argument. We're not here to debate what defines value of games or what qualifies as deserving. Those are much broader topics. If you feel disappointed in this game and are going around upvoting and supporting others who are hating and criticizing, downvoting and criticizing others who are defending Bungie, then you're giving more evidence that the "Bungie hating cheerleader" label fits.