this was originally a thread about PC users getting banned for no reason at launch, just like they did in the beta; i made a post back then to say that people were getting banned unfairly with the new anti-cheat system, i was told i was wrong - - cozmo has returned to re-affirm he stands in the same place as before
this thread is now being used to advocate a bungie response to much bigger problems, with much more support; i feel cozmo only replied to this thread because it was personal to him; old post in question :
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/230318219?sort=0&page=0&path=1]Post In Question[/url]
[u][b]IMPORTANT UPDATE[/b][/u]
[i]The quote of "only 400 banned" is a number used for PERMA BANS. Thousands of other guardians are still getting banned, but temporarily. Maybe for an hour or two at longest. That is still an issue. That is still wrong. Just because "only 400" have been banned forever, does not wash your hands of the thousands being banned temporarily for doing nothing wrong.[/i]
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To anyone curious, Cozmos response:[quote]This is not true. You will not get banned for using any of the apps mentioned in this post, but they may be un-compatible with Destiny 2 when using certain or features. In short, the game might not run properly but you aren't getting banned just for running them.[/quote]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/230318219?sort=0&page=0&path=1 Whilst I disagree that cozmos response was defamatory, it was a blatant lie... The truth is out there, people are getting banned for using legitimate software which happens to be incompatible with D2, and Cosmo claimed "you aren't getting banned just for running them". Just head over to the #help section to see the bans.
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Lol all these people "he didn't call you a liar" You were right; he said you were wrong; i.e. he said you were lying. Sorry, fanboys. Destiny 2 is an objectively crappy game just as Great Value is an objectively crappy brand. Just cuz a bunch of people still use the product, that doesn't make it good. That's cool and all that you and your group of soccer dads are still having fun running around missing headshots on aliens, but for millions of us who have spent a lot of time and money on this franchise, Bungie needs to know how let down and mislead we have been.
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Since the complaints about being banned are only in the thousands and not the millions, I am betting that those thousands of players were running software that they were not supposed to and got nailed for it.
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Maybe stop trying to infuse code into copyrighted games that have specific terms of service that say you will be banned if you do? Play stock and this crap would never happen.
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Who are you?
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EssAndEmm2013. I am calling you out personally and saying you are a liar. Cozmo didnt 'call you out personally.' He simply shared information that you dont agree with. Now run along and go cry with your PC friends on reddit.
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I'm sorry who are you?
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[Fallen chatter]
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[quote]yeah this game sucks[/quote]
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More lie than Felwinter's Lie?
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Edited by westy78: 10/25/2017 5:15:42 PMRemember that time you lied about being called a liar? Yeah, that’s right it’s now! Knobhead
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No, who are you?
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No. I don't. Because it never happened. I read the post. Turns out you ARE a liar, but Cosmo never called you one. He didn't address you at all. He just said this information is not accurate. As far as we can tell, that information was not accurate. Bungie says the bans are not the result of benign third party programs like dischord. People are being banned because they're trying to cheat. People seem to think this isn't possible because so many have been banned. These same people have apparenly never played a pc game in their life. Every pc game is literally infested with cheaters. Every time they get banned it's all "nuh uh, not me." This all fits perfectly within my expectations of D2 on pc. Nothing to see here.
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Seems to me they spared 1 million people the dumpster baby that is destiny 2 they are the lucky ones
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Yeah Cozmo sucks
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He didn't lie. It sounds like what he's saying is that, yes, there are clearly issues with running other applications with Destiny 2. [i]But,[/i] in terms of the game system itself, it technically isn't a ban. "Ban" would imply that you were specifically banned from the system for cheating or bad behavior. So no, you can't blame him for attempting to put out the flames before people start thinking that Bungie [i]banned[/i] (see explanation above) all those players that are having technical difficulties.
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Bungie even said don't use stuff like discord or 3rd party programs Battle.net has a policy against 3rd party programs PC players cry after being banned for using said programs Error 404 logic not found
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While I don’t agree with unfair bans, I don’t believe bungie should be considered liars. There are guidelines/restrictions set in place to limit the idea of cheating/exploitation and while some applications may be causing these occurrences inadvertently, which is a possibility and if so it must be corrected first and foremost, I do believe that there is more to each story than is being told.
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Bungie is shit tier now.
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Waaaahhhh waaaahhhh I run macros and mods in the background on my pc cause I'm a trash can. Why you ban me Bungie.
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Well he is just a community manager, I highly doubt he knows what the code says. Though it does seem like something you should ask the people that do know what it is before commenting. Anywho, we have seen multiple times now that even the community managers are left in the dark about information. It seems like Bungie not only lacks communication to the community but even in it's own company.
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Cozmo is a clown and his only job is to grade videos. What a joke.
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terrible company. The only revenge we can do is to boycott bungie games.
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Not certain that calling someone a liar, and saying a statement is untrue is unequivocally the same. It is possible for a false statement to be made due to ignorance, and not an intentional deception. However, you still get a check in the win box. Kudos.
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Touché.
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I don’t remember that at all actually. Go to school.