I get it you want us to have fun playing this game and coming back for it because of the memories we share with each other and the human element. We had that, it doesn't go away... D1 had that. Every game can have that. I want back the other element that made Destiny FUN to share with other people. D2 stripped away all the good you built in D1 and replaced it with what? The human element and playing with friends and the community? That isn't going away, but what did go away is the reasons for playing and coming together as a community to play this game. There is no reason for you to log in other than the "human element" and as game designers its your goal to want people to play your game, to have reason to get friends online to meet up and tackle challenges together. To have meaningful rewards and endgame activities to keep us logging in and joining up. I was talking with my friends online tonight after we logged in, all staring at A single milestone to do 3 challenges wondering what to do, wheres the endgame.... sure we could go stack up and team shoot in pvp but only 4 of us can play that... we could do what split into 2 teams and farm public events? for what gain? Do the raid? again with nothing to gain, no quest we want to chase something at the end of.... nothing to help each other achieve.... it's just not there... but what do we do.... stack up more duplicate drops to turn into legendary shards.... to spend on what? There is no goals only play same repetitive activities for no reason other than the human element that we can get doing anything else.... why play this game? That is the question Bungie needs to answer for us. We can come up with any reason to party up and play any game... We want to play this game, give us a reason to. Give us a endgame, give us a fun platform and reasons to hop online and party up.... that's what we want.... that's what we currently aren't getting. concerned Destiny fan. BR out