These two verses are from many other verses telling you the consequences of not believing. None of these "plagues" have happened to me. I'll put two of the worst ones here.
Leviticus 26:22 reads;
[b][i]"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and make you few in number."[/i][/b]
"if you don't believe in me I'll kill your children and neighbors."
Leviticus 26:29 reads;
[b][i]"You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters."[/i][/b]
"If you don't believe in me I'll force you to perform cannibalism, which will make you a murderer."
Edit 1: "I'll punish your children because you don't believe in me, even if they do believe in me"
Edit 2: "don't believe in me? ok, I'll just have you eat your children"
Edit 3: "BUT MUH JESUS NEW TESTAMENT" that honestly means nothing. In Christian ideology, the Bible is God's word. So God said this as well, in the belief. Having the New Testament doesn't change the fact that your god was/is malicious and barbaric.
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Thats why Jesus came and changed lots of the old testimate things
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I hope they get well soon.
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Sounds hot tbh
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Edited by Catty_Wampus22: 10/10/2017 5:45:16 PMI like Deuteronomy 22:28-29 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and ràpes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives
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It's funny. When nonbelievers point out the murder, -blam!-, pedophilia, slavery, etc in bible, Christians always say that we are just "misinterpreting" it. They just don't have balls to admit their holy book is a complete joke.
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I don't have a problem with it. Especially not knowing the context it was written. Post whole chapters my dude
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Ok. So where's the context?
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Edited by DarkStryker 00: 10/13/2017 12:50:56 PMJust like I said to someone else. There’s a difference between ‘reading’ and ‘interpreting’ biblical text. If you simply read the Bible, it sounds like something else. The Bible is meant to be interpreted, not simply skimmed over. You’re at least interpreting it somewhat, so I suppose that’s a plus. The issue is, you are interpreting it too literally. He’s simply saying that if you don’t believe, there’s nothing that will protect you from sin or whatever Satan throws your way. I will be completely honest in saying I’m not sure what the second verse is trying to explain.
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Here is a PRO abortion bible verse no one will tell you about and the ultra religious idiots willfully choose to ignore... [quote]Ecclesiastes 4-2 And I declared that the dead, who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive. 4-3 [b]But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. [/b] [/quote]
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HURR DURR muh God is all loving, we must avoid evil at all costs because muh God doesn’t like it... Isiah 45: [quote]6. ...I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. [/quote]
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Way to cherry pick. Why not quote the verses before where it actually establishes context to the verses you recited? Oh, wait!! That would destroy your narrative wouldn't it? You should get a job at Fox. They are also really good at cherry picking to suit a narrative. CNN is also great at it.
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>slamming Christianity when Islam is a thing
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Ive said this many times. Writing styles were very different back then to connect with the contemporary audience. They use more brutal references to get the message across because people were more brutal and connected with that idea more wholly. All youve done is take a few quotes out of context and apply them to todays standards, millennia after the intended target audience.
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That was old DMX, not the new reformed baptized preacher DMX.
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yet more fail from the anti-theist zealots.
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Sounds like this God needs a snickers.
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I love when non religious people try to interpret Bible verses. They always take everything out of context or way to literally.
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The proper biblical response to this if you are a christian is to reference the apostle Paul in Romans 9. [quote]18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?[/quote] Basically Paul's response to injustice we see God committing is ,"who are you, a human being, to talk back to God?" We are the clay and the potter can do whatever he likes to his creations.
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Edited by Romans43: 10/9/2017 11:30:47 PMThis talks to Israel specifically. No one else is involved. These people God chose to be his children, and he treats them like we treat our children. If they continue rebelling, the discipline will only be more harsh. Through trial and error, however, they will learn and learn how it was a good thing they were taught what they were. The eating of children is what happens if they think their way is better than God’s. They will [b]want[/b] to eat their children because it’s the path they chose. God doesn’t force it on them. You think Israel was screwed up? Think again. Every other nation worshipped death. They worshipped cannibalism. They worshipped murder. They worshipped themselves. Notice not one nation of them still stands. The followers of God, however, do. If not anything else, those nations are examples. They succeeded in everything that they wanted, but their victories were short lived. In the Christian Age, we are not given immediate punishment, but time to look back on those mistakes. The time will come that every nation of today is demolished by their own doing. The believers, however, will still stand.
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Edited by Vox Mortuis: 10/9/2017 4:59:44 PM*patpat* maybe you should take this up with jews, Christians only view it as history. Edit: also, your context and interpretation is terrible, but I mean...you don't seem to want to know the correct ones, so believe what you want.
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Edited by Ronin: 10/7/2017 11:04:46 AMI have to say, first of all: you’re reading these verses and interpreting them literally. Jesus’s coming in the New Testament changed the way the Old Testament should be interpreted. Most of it was literal for the Old Israelites, but now it’s figurative for everyone on the planet. Also, after you read the verses, you are making judgements according to a false foundation. Secondly: what everyone (and I really mean all people, nobody not included) should have when reading the Bible is a willingness to see past the literal. In this example, you first talked about plagues coming down and killing your children and neighbors. At least, your first listed verse did. Yes, this could be interpreted literally. I think it was a legitimate threat to the Israelites so that they didn’t lose their faith again. Last time they did that, they wandered the desert for 40 years, enough time to pass the generation. He’s like a father: when his kids keep disobeying him to the point of making him mad, he needs to sit them down and set them straight. What does this verse mean for us now that Jesus has come and some of the Bible, but not all, should be interpreted figuratively? Well, first: good question. It’s one, or part of one, that theologians have been trying to answer for decades. Second: to understand what this verse might be saying, we need to take a step back and define some terms. “Children,” “plagues,” and “neighbor” don’t only mean “your sires,” a pattern of disease in an area, and “people who live near you.” “Children” could also refer to disciples that spend 24/7 with you or to the children of your children. Personally, I choose to consider every possible way the term “Children” could be defined. “Plagues” is also used other times in the Bible to simply mean “bad stuff happening to you.” It sometimes refers to a sickness or disease, but it tends not to imply that one group of people are affected. As for “neighbor,” that ones a little easier. It means everyone. God means for it to refer to everyone in the world, because He wants everyone to be neighbors. So, now that we have at least opened our definitions up a bit, let’s delve back into the verse. The context (didn’t copy the verse down, so I’m working from memory) basically says that if you don’t believe, all these horrible things will happen to you. In this verse, he specified a plague coming down and killing your children and neighbors. Well, in my definition for plagues earlier, I said that plagues imply that more than one group of people are affected. This is definitely the case here. It is affected the people group “your children” and “your neighbors.” Now, enough with my rambling logic. You probably want me to say how this verse could be interpreted figuratively, right? Don’t answer, I’m typing into a phone. It was a rhetorical question. Anyway, this is how the verse should be interpreted figuratively: If you don’t believe (AKA if you disobey me), then the people that you know, including yourself, will undergo hardships that equate to the level of plagues coming down and killing your livestock and family. Do you see how I did end up changing the verse a little bit, but the overall meaning is still very similar? This interpretation sounds at least a little nicer than the literal one, doesn’t it? Especially if you read it in the tone of a scolding father trying to discipline his children. Of course, this interpretation is likely far from complete. Like I said before, defining and interpreting the Bible is something people do for a living and sometimes their entire lives. It is no easy matter to define and interpret the Bible. I don’t think I have room to do the second verse in detail here, but let me just say this: it’s roughly the same thing. It’s talking about how friends will turn on each other because of the hardships they’re facing. Now, any questions? I want to end this off on a good note, even though this is a morbid topic. Edit: OK, after I got done and posted this, I scrolled back up and read the verse. Sending wild beasts is just like sending a plague - wild beasts is just a type of plague, that’s all.
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I wish the mods would ban you and your ignorant posts. Quiet if you don't know what you're talking about.
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What did you expect? The entire premise of God is, [i]believe in me, do as I say, worship no one else, or you will suffer eternal pain in hell when you die. [/i]
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hold on, those things did happen to israel, and they where prophetic verses. get context woman
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though on an unrelated note. where did you get that profile pic?
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If we believe that other people’s religion (Allah, Buddah, etc. ) are fake, and they think our beliefs are false. Is anyone correct? If everything can be explained through science, then what’s the point of religion?