Nothing about current nightfalls requires a mic, and truthfully, it never really did.

I’m tired of waiting for 30+ minutes for guides that are 265 power, don’t have mics and have absolutely no clue what they are doing in a nightfall. I have experienced this in about 80% of the times I have used guided games. So, after waiting 30 minutes, we fail and then I have to wait another 30 minutes to find another team and the cycle repeats! Now I’m out of guided game tickets and can’t even attempt the nightfall until season 2 starts. Bungie, PLEASE get rid of guided games for the nightfall and just add regular matchmaking!! Guided games is absolutely miserable to use if you are a seeker and needs to go now!

Nightfall strikes are no where near freaking difficult enough. Destiny outside of strikes is no where near difficult enough to warrant this kind of approach to finding players. If we could contact other players hanging out in social area's it'd make a bit more sense, but you can't. LFG and Hosted game lobbies seem to be a foreign concept, include these if you don't want matchmaking, or if you want to complain about people who simply want to play the game. Now sure, people running in and wasting your time is frustrating. However, such is life. I just went to play a guided nightfall knowing i almost completed one. SOLO!!!!! And i saw that "mic required" option. I do not wish to use coms for a nightfall, i simply wish to do something im up to and enjoy the game. It's a dps check however. There is absolutely nothing in a nightfall strike that requires raid level co-ordination. And from what i understand, D2's raid doesn't require it either so long as you are aware of the mechanics, which a simple video guide can help you understand. The way all of this is implemented prevents freelance introverted players such as myself from enjoying the full game without the risk of dramatic idiocy and confrontation from people who think they're better because they're further along, or have better gear, or have a clan. This is why i hesitated to click launch. Not because i felt it would be too hard without, but because i have no love for drama on a game that has a far lower difficulty than some of the single player games I've played through. I find it kind of ridiculous in a way... because the one game that comes to mind when i consider this... has a mode that is far harder than anything destiny has had to offer. It took me playing an instance at 60 power above my current level for me to experience a difficulty that was somewhat... similar to how it was. Halo's hardest difficulty. You can drop that on single player, and 2 player co-op. But you can't just implement matchmaking in a raid and nightfall strikes, inviting drama and conflict into a pve... FF14 has matchmaking on their hardest content. You don't join these games to complete them, you join them to find people who have the potential to do so, and group up with them slowly but surely, and eventually you complete it. That's how i progressed. ugh this whole thing gets on my nerves so damn much. Finally, 'mic required' is actually nonsense. They need to simply be able to LISTEN. I agree that someone jumping into nightfall and screwing around, ignoring the guides, is frustrating. I agree that you should be frustrated 100%. But i hope that these players screwing around don't cause a community of guides who refuse to play with people who are willing to listen without a mic. Text chat should workout on the PC as-well. I can just say. Yo, i watched a guide, i know what to do, im just inexperienced. leggo. Any toxicity i receive will probably be met with an extreme response of my own, in a none toxic, but harsh manner. I loved D1, but i didn't ever touch nightfalls or raids because of it's functions. I was overjoyed about the game coming to the PC so i could communicate with others, and use my mic for raids. But I've completed the campaign, and have barely interacted with other players, making starting my own clan pointless because i have to use 3rd party functions to find other players. or do the one thing i absolutely don't want to as an introvert xD Join a random clan. Edit: Here's a suggestion o.o Make nightfall's hard, and remove the dps check timer! -.-

Can you hear me now? Ty. Ty. I'm here all week, try the buffet!

I would have been mad if I got you guys as my guide and still couldn't complete it.

There's an option for microphone requirement

What they need to do is just scrap this stupid "Guided Games" shit that nobody asked for and just add matchmaking like people have been asking for literally for years. Twice now I've used my "Seeker" tickets JUST to get matchmade teammates while I'm doing other things and can't be bothered to ask around and we've breezed through it, with me pulling more than my share of the weight. Their whole bit about NFs being too hard to do with randoms is BS. If they wanted they could maybe try to salvage the whole "Oathkeeper" system to keep people from leeching, but there's no reason that ordinary matchmaking couldn't be added.

Couldn't have you guys voted to leave to cancel without penalty? Even then you could have "failed" to complete it, wasted the time, and gotten out of it after the 45 min contract, right? I understand the mic frustration, however

Can't they still hear you?

A mic would not have improved your situation and any mechanic outside of detecting AFK would not have helped either since you were the sherpa and the rules would have been less stringent on the novice. You are going to have to go back to the drawing board and think of a better solution to suggest. Signed, Tough Love

Bump

Me and a clanmate hosted a nighftall last week. We didn't start until the player joined our party chat and explained what we were doing. But the screening process should go both ways for seekers and guides.

What if they connect a mic but mute it or leave it on the floor? You're complaint is valid but will not stop people from not using a mic if they don't want to.