I agree blade329, my main reason for disliking the current game is no real replay value without rolls on guns......and this is not because i "need" them for pvp. PVP in this game is very easy to adapt to no matter what you're facing and i for one don't feel like it's any more balanced than it was in year 1 D1. 9 different subclasses.......if it was originally intended to be for casuals only they would've made one loadout for pvp. With the exception of very few guns, i have been plaing since day 1 and rarely faced opponents who couldn't be defeated in pvp even when it was their chosen gun's meta. The bottom line for a hardcore player is there's nothing at all right now to make this game any better than COD....which i really dislike btw. It's been made into a truly vanilla version like never before and now sits as an epic space fps with no substance. What's saddest is that if casuals had to deal with a bit more competition/difficulty they complained about it would still be a decent game for them, but they've all but ruined it for hardcores.