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The Darkblade Returned

When performing the summoning ritual public event on Titan you are tasked with interrupting a Hive ritual. The nature of the ritual is unclear however. It is likely tied to Savathun coming to our system or perhaps Quria, but more on that later. From the lore of D1 and the Book of Sorrows we understand the concept of the oversoul, ascendant throne spaces and the ascendant realm in general. Ir Anuk and Ir Halalk, daughters of Oryx and sisters of Crota, created the oversoul. Crota attempted also, and the War Priest it seems had his own version in the Occulus. If Crota and Alak Hul were raised as brothers (which is more than possible), then it is extremely likely that Alak Hul has his own ascendant space to reside in upon death, or attempted to learn the ways of crafting an oversoul to separate the death from the dying. Keep all of this in mind. There are three significnt Hive in the public event on Titan. The Abyssal Wizard, the Abyssal Knight, and the servant of Savathun. Think back to the original Sunless Cell strike in D1. Oryx is dead and a power vacuum has been created. Malok, son of Savathun, and Alak Hul adopted son of Oryx, both try respectively to claim the throne. We kill Alak Hul and Eris Morn says the following: "May his dark soul go screaming into the pit between the stars." This "pit" can, for all intents and purposes, be referred to as an/the abyss. The pit between stars is none other than the ascendant realm which Toland spoke of. When speaking to Ir Yut the Death Singer, Tolan lost his physical body and was allowed entry into the perpetually rotting ascendant rralm of the Hive. Toland referred to this process as being "detached from my source." He said the following about drifting through the Hive nether realm: "This is the shape and the point of the tooth: nothing has ever lived that will not die. Now I fly between green-black suns in the labyrinth beyond Crota’s god-star. This is the Overworld, the Sea of Screams, where the throne-universes of the great Hive fester in eternal majesty. I move among them. I map the shapes and connections of this world." Alak Hul did not die a true death. He returned to his nether region to recover his strength and develop a new plan. There is no denying that the first and main giant Knight in that event is Alak Hul. Same helmet, axe, and glowing bulbous head. My theory is that when we killed him he did go screaming back to the nether world...and has now come to our world through this ritual. He is the Abyssal Champion/Knight. The wizard is unknown. The other Knight is obviously a servant of Savathun. He could be a superior to Alak Hul..one who is to keep the Darkblade in check last he try to betray Savathun as he did Oryx. Either way this is huge in my eyes. We have a returning ascendant champion from D1 in D2 who fits according to the lore. If Savathun has claimed the mantle of Oryx, would not Alak Hul be present to conspire? [spoiler]Speaking of Hive: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/233163582/0/0[/spoiler] Edit: I'm well aware that the Alak Hul sprite was just recycled. I just thought it interesting that an attempt to provide quickly thrown in content aligns perfectly with the games lore....lore which is being retconned and butchered as we progress through the story.

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  • The wizard (goddamnit why can’t they just be called witches?!) could be Omigul, or Ir Yut. Then again that is a stretch :/

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    • The thing is...it's not just a character model recycle. He teleports the same. He has the exact same types of waves. These things are unique to him lending credence to your theory.

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      • [quote]He returned to his nether region...[/quote] Nice post, but I can't stop laughing at this part. Damn near 40, still laughing at dick jokes.

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      • So when I kick his ass on the titan PE .....hook a brother up with his cheese wedge titan helmet.

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        • Otherwise known as: lazy devs reuse old skins for public event boss.

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          • Belongs in lore

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          • You're giving Bungie way too much credit here. You're assuming Bungie has a coherent plan for their story and a solid grasp of their own lore. They don't. If one of their lore people were to read this post (excellent post btw) they would be completely lost and confused.

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            • Who exactly is savathun? Ghost inspections reveal that some of the taken hyperspheres on io are whispering his name.

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              • Bungie Fans: "Bungie! You are lazy for bringing back old enemies, areas, and weapons in unique ways" Every other Fans: "Thank you *developer* for bringing back my favorite things from an earlier game" I officially hate this community.

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              • Regarding the wormspore and the tower, one of the cleaners in the tower can be heard saying "the tower is empty....isn't it?". In saying that, people could be going back to the tower and grabbing supplies to sell illegally.These are just my thoughts.

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              • Nice cover for bungie's copy paste mentality

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              • You’re all wrong, here is what happened. Alak Hul was granted to be a strike boss, that is a decent title to have but when we annihilated him several times he was downgrade to a plain old boring Public Event boss with a chance of spawning. Poor Alak Hul let us take a moment to remember the times we slaughtered him.

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                • [quote]He returned to his nether region to recover his strength and develop a new plan.[/quote] If I got my butt kicked in prison by a bunch of people everyday just because they wanted a new gun I'd probably be returning to my nether region too.

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                  • Yo, so there are actually countless Hive we don't know much about with more than enough power to have their own "realm", similar to Daedric Princes in Elder Scrolls lore having realms dotting Oblivion. There is MUCH we don't know, but rest assured; there are definitely Hive somewhere as powerful as the strongest foes we have faced so far. I imagine the Hive overrealm (the one that overarches all other realms) has a sort of way of life to it, and more powerful Hive sects exist solely to care about their home. They could even have forsaken Hive who prefer to try and take planets for their own, instead favoring the ruling of their one true home.

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                    • This is exactly the type of information that would be in the grimoire. Just saying.

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                    • Also if Oryx truly does live on another plane of existence. Then there's no way we can possibly kill him in our world or our plane. Then what we fought in "Kong's fall" must be just a manifestation of Oryx. Just like killing him in the campaign. Just another manifestation. If he can truly take anyone and anything. Then he must be able to take other forms that he has "taken"

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                      • Where does this shit come from? Like serious more lore comes out of nowhere

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                        • [quote] Edit: I'm well aware that the Alak Hul sprite was just recycled. I just thought it interesting that an attempt to provide quickly thrown in content aligns perfectly with the games lore....lore which is being retconned and butchered as we progress through the story.[/quote] Retconned and butchered? How so? I'm not saying you're wrong, just acknowledging that I never really paid attention to the contents of the grimoire and I'm legitimately curious about this.

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                          • I really hope there is more to this. The grimorie cards had such great content but sadly the game did not do a good job of show casing it. Now they have said they never even knew what the darkness is/was. I don't have high hopes for cohesive, tightly thought out and interwoven lore behind something that was probably just a reused skin.

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                          • I can't continue reading an attempt at lore when you can't even get the name of the Books of Sorrow correct.

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                            • Destiny 1.5

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                            • Edited by Disciple4Christ4: 9/26/2017 3:43:07 PM
                              [i]Nothing that ever lived that will not doe.[/i] or something along those lines. Toland said this and SO DID CALUS!! Connection somewhere? This probably supports the theory that Calus had some interaction with the darkness.

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                              • I like apples.

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                              • would +2 harder if possible.

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                              • Funny, I just found the Lore section (Thanks to Fox)........somehow missed the "all topics" Hey, I'm old or blind....or something.

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                                • TL:DR Bungie are lazy as -blam!- and re-used his Knight model.

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