I mean. the Bungie everyone fantasizes about has been done with since reach. but imo they'eve always been over talked. And this is coming from someone who started with them in halo 1. they were always pretty vague about things. they always kept things tight to the chest. they never had any really good track record with communication to their fans. I don't think they've really changed all too much. And I think a majority of people who think so just want to romantisize the past and be inside the "in" crowd with destiny hate. I've always said from the beginning that I wanted destiny to be a lot more RPG than fps. But realistically speaking D1 attracted a wide audience. and it grew. and making D2 a more polished D1 experience was the smart call instead of starting from scratch. That's not to say D2 doesn't already have issues (mine just are not the typical ones everyone is currently crying over) but as usual people are making dumb threads like this and making a big deal out of things. If you honestly NEED someone to blame for anything destiny related either blame the community or blame activision. Activision has over stepped their bounds with the design process with destiny 1 more than once. we know this. and the community will never be happy. regardless of who bungie tries to appease. You can slam them for trying to appease everyone. But i'd rather blame the lil shits that got their attention. Not the devs who are trying to make everyone happy.