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8/7/2017 12:54:53 AM
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Irrefutable Flat Earth Proof: Clouds Behind The Sun

The above picture clearly shows that clouds occur [b]behind the sun[/b]. Before you say: "[i]KP, if the sun is that close airplanes would crash into it[/i]" remember: the sun is close, but not [b]that close[/b]. In Planar Models of [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesy]Geodesy[/url], the sun is smaller and much closer to earth, [url=https://flatearthandthought.com/2017/01/17/question-how-do-daynight-cycles-and-seasons-work-on-a-flat-earth/]where it orbits above its surface[/url]. Even working off the conservative estimate of the sun being 3000 miles from the surface of the earth, and several hundred miles in diameter, this allows ample amounts of space for air craft (which rarely exceed 60,00 feet) to travel without any danger of colliding with the sun. The implications of photos such as the above should cast aside any doubt in the mind of a reasonable spherist. Unfortunately, the grip of mainstream science is iron strong, and evidence manifestly obvious to a 5 year old invariably gets dismissed by indoctrination and circular reasoning in more "enlightened" adults. The picture also speaks volumes regarding the structure of earth's atmosphere. Obviously, the atmosphere is layered, with clouds occurring [b]both[/b] [i]in front[/i] and [i]behind[/i] the sun. Logically, the posterior (rear most) clouds are much larger and thicker than those occurring in front of the sun. It is the nearby clouds that we encounter while flying or climbing a tall mountain. The Sun orbits well beyond the nearest clouds, while the distant clouds are themselves well beyond the sun. So why dont we often see clouds behind the sun during the afternoon? Upper atmosphere clouds (the thicker more distant ones) tend to occur along the more distant fringes of the disk of the earth. As the sun recedes in its daily orbit across the surface of the earth (causing the sun set), the angle of light (relative to the observer) reflects from the earth, illuminating the distant "thick" clouds. This common, everyday picture completely blows heliocentric theory out of the water. The sun is clearly NOT massive OR distant. It is [i]smaller[/i] [b]and[/b] [i]closer[/i] to the surface of the Flat Earth. P.S. Before you try to explain away these pictures due to photographic "bleeding" of the camera lens, please read my blog post about the Nearby Sun Hypothesis. I deal with this criticism at the end of the article: https://flatearthandthought.com/2017/08/07/proof-behind-the-sun-flat-earth-sunsets/ Remember guys: [i]Trust Your Senses. They Are There [b]Because[/b] They Work[/i]

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  • Some questions for flat-earthers. Where did you first hear of flat earth? Why did you believe them? Why is it that, even in spite of the [i]overwhelming amount[/i] of evidence that the earth is round, you chose to believe that "source?" Why do you create fake physics, when that is the exact same thing some of you condemn certain scientists of doing? Why do you pick and chose what physics apply? Did you know that "Flat Earth" started (in modern age) as a joke? Why is the only evidence you come up with when we ask you [i]how[/i] are ignorant diagrams and lengthy explanations about physics you made up? Why do you avoid questions that absolutely disprove Flat Earth? Evidence Specific Section: Why can't you see the "Wall of Ice" no matter how high up you are? What is propelling the Earth upwards? Why is the ice wall not melting? If it's because it's warmer in the center, how is the North Pole nothing but ice?

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  • No, just no

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  • Sorry I took a break from OffTopic is this guy actually a flat earther or trolling

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    • Thou art a knave, and quite a spherical one at that!

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    • Those are cirrus clouds, they are thin and wispy, the sun isnt in front of them you can tell cause where the cloud is, the sun is somewhat blurred (hard to see, but only because there is a small amount of cloud in front of the sun) but since the cirrus clouds are so thin, you get an effect similar to when you shine a bright flashlight through a piece of paper Also, ive flown through clouds kiddo

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        • Some of your other theories made sense, I just chose not to listen or believe, but this is pushing the envelope so far I'm certain this is a parody post.

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          • Go away! We want habilis back!

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            • I agree! If the world was round no matter where you where you would [i]always[/i] be walking downhill! I clearly walked up a hill on way way to work this morning! If you fell over on a round earth you would just keep rolling around it forever back to the point you started at then just keep on -blam!-ing rolling! Limp bizkit=illuminati confirmed!

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            • If the earth was a sphere then we would fall into deep space.

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            • Started a new topic: Irrefutable Flat Earth Facts: Laying on your back is not a Theory. (Debunked)(18 Replies))

            • When Flat Earthers are shown pictures from Round Earthers, they claim photoshop. So, what's stopping Round Earthers from doing the same when shown pics from Flat Earthers?

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                • But Krish, how does an orbit work on a flat earth? ~[i]asking the right questions[/i]

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                  • Edited by Intoxicated ODST: 8/8/2017 8:12:18 PM
                    So, if the sun is that close, than you should be able to see it get noticeably larger as you ascend into the atmosphere, say on a plane. Is there any evidence of the sun being larger if you go on a high altitude / commercial plane? Also where does this low orbit, smaller sun get its energy from? What is it made from? If it is made from the same particles / works the same (i.e nuclear fusion) as the standard sun model, then it would need to be hundreds of times larger, as estimates for the minimal star size range from around 8.7% the diameter of our sun (from space.com). Even if this mini-star was small enough to fit into your planar model, which it is not [i]my calculations put it at 121,051.8km across, as the sun's diameter is 1.3914 million km 8.7% of 1.3914 million km is 121,051.8 km (it would be appreciated if someone could recheck those calculations thanks)[/i] If it were that size, its density would have to extremely high to cause cause enough pressure to trigger nuclear fusion. Its mass would cause insanely poweful gravitational tidal forces, easily enough to destroy earth completely. TL;DR : Your 'sun' (if it obeys the laws of gravity and nuclear fusion) is an impossibility, proven by us [b]still being alive[/b]. So the question is; does the planar version of our sun behave in the same way our current models of our sun work? (I.e. fusion, pressure, gravity etc) Cheers for reading, [spoiler]also sos for not having the exact url for the space.com article, I lost it. However you can easily find it yourself if you search 'minimum size of a star' [/spoiler]

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                    • Edited by spector_1-4: 8/8/2017 2:58:46 PM
                      *facepalm*

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                    • https://www.metabunk.org/explained-why-clouds-appear-behind-the-sun-and-moon.t7084/

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                    • This shitposting really -blam!-ed the pooch.

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                      • Damn I guess those REAL satellite images and REAL live streams from NASA showing a round earth isn't evidence. Have you ever been in a plane at 30,000 feet? You can actually see the world curve....LITERALLY

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                        • My name is jeff

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                        • Did you also know clouds are transparent too Meaning you can see through the really thin clouds which are what they are right there Extremely thin clouds

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                          • Edited by jamesk_01: 8/8/2017 3:09:13 AM
                            Jesus 🤦

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                          • You say everyone is manipulated by science and false conclusions yet you're basing this whole argument on photos. The same thing you say can be easily altered or tampered with when it comes to things proving the Earth is a sphere. Who's to say all these pictures you're posting aren't photoshopped?

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                            • >Sun is very very bright >Clouds are not solid The kind of cloud that is most apparent at sunset, is thin, wispy, and not entirely opaque. The light from the sun can very easily shine through the cloud, making it seem that the cloud disappears behind the sun. When in fact, it simply shines so brightly behind it that the cloud appears translucent. This can be easily replicated, with the right materials.

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                              • And my senses tell me when I was on a jet flying from Washington DC to London that clouds only went up so far and yet the sun still seemed to be 8 lightminutes away. They also told me that I did not perceive the sun's size to increase the higher up I got.

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                                • All of this over a picture that could've easily been Photoshoped.

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