Charging time of supers and nades are fine in D2, in D1 were to many supers and nades. Lets do some numbers of D1 ......in a PVP 10 minutes match you will have 24 nades....yes 24 !!!! if you charge your nades at 25 seconds rate, could be more nades depend on your equipment. Also you will have at least 02 supers if you do not kill any one, but usually you will have 03 supers per match. So in summary ........if you equip Stickys nades you could have 24 kills only will nades and at leats 06 kills with 03 supers asumming you are a potato using your supers........Yes about 30 kills without fire a single bullet....that was totaly broken. In the new system in D2 you HAVE TO USE you weapons, no every challenge will have something to do with a granade or a super. Countdowm PVP mode 4 vs 4 is ok. Control 4 vs 4 is not good should be 6 vs 6. Extremely terrible thing that the weapons will have the same perks...... with D1perks system you have reason to play over and over hundreds of hours looking for the GOD ROLL WEAPON, and also makes for example that 50 different weapons feel like 500 weapons only because of the perks combination. BUNGIE PLEASE FIX THE PERK WEAPON SYSTEMS IT SHOUD BE LIKE D1