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Edited by Disciple4Christ4:
7/18/2017 8:53:50 PM
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This just shows how many people with no gunskill depend on abilities to fight
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I used the Sidearm (Warlock) to attack the very first enemy that crashes thru the wall. I hit The head and neck area with every bullet... took 3 Full mags to kill. HC took 3 head shots ( up from 2 in D1) Oh and no one hit head shots on Psions...
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If I wanted a game that solely depended on gunskill alone I would go play halo or csgo etc. this is destiny where abilities are what originally made it different.
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I just think it's not as ..... super....fun no more. Like I don't want a HC and AR, I want HC and shotty. I want destiny back
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Luckily, D1 will still be available for you to play.
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Ikr... I'm not feeling this right now honestly
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Lots of other games have gun skill.... Destiny was supposed to be different.
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why is it that gunskill, in a scifi game that gives you awesome super powers, is more important to you?
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Edited by GalaxySpider: 7/18/2017 9:12:18 PMBecause it still supposed to be a First Person Shooter, not Destiny: the ability spam simulator, which is a pain in the A$$ in PvP. Even Borderlands does it right and is purely PvE.
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That's fine, slow the supers in PvP then and not pve.....
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oh and borderlands only lets you use your super once every 10 minutes? Nah.
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I didn't mean that. Just that people normally spam abilities to get kills in crucible and in PvE too
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Edited by FrenetiCreature: 7/18/2017 10:32:33 PMThen, if you just wanna shoot, play a game where that's all you do. Destiny isn't that game, it is what it is. Why play the game, knowing what's available in it, and then complain? Being good at Destiny, means being good at using guns, abilities, and movement in concert. Destiny isn't, and never was, meant to be a gun simulator. If using your gun in one match nets you the win, then you choose correctly. But if in another match, your enemies used abilities more, and your choice to use your primary got you a loss; where competing abilities would've been a better choice against them, then it's because you choose wrong. You weren't good enough at Destiny, to choose which type of attack was the best to use against the enemy that you were fighting at that time. It has both abilities and guns, because it's meant to. You wouldn't play an RPG that has swords and magic in it, then complain that people used their magic instead of their sword to win, right? I mean, because you know going into it, that both are available. You know it's not just a sword simulator. The problem is that you're looking at Destiny wrong. It's the same situation as the hypothetical RPG that I mentioned earlier. The swords from the RPG would be equivalent to the guns in Destiny, and the magic from the RPG would be equivalent to the abilities Destiny. But because Destiny has guns, people that are used to FPS games, can't get their head outside of the "FPS box". They can only imagine that since it has guns, it should be just like the FPS, gun simulators, games that they're used to. The problem isn't the game, it's the people who can't grasp what the game actually is, and then complain about it. It'd be like playing chess, but then complaining that people can move more than one box at a time, you can't multi-jump your opponent's pieces, and your pieces don't get "kinged", when they make it to the other side of the board; like in checkers. Umm... Well... You realize it's Chess, not Checkers, right? Just because they're using the rules of the game to beat you, doesn't mean they don't have any skill. They're good at the game you're playing. They're using the rules that the game was designed with in mind, to beat you. Just because you think so, that only Checkers rules take skill; it means exactly d!ck, when you're playing chess. If you wanna play Checkers, then go play Checkers. Don't come to a Chess tourney, and then constantly complain that people are playing Chess, not Checkers.
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Edited by GalaxySpider: 7/19/2017 7:38:59 AMFact is that the classes itself are not balanced to allow an ability spam fest. And I'm glad that problem has been recognized in D2. That's why a comparison to board games, where everyone is absolutely even(!), with no alternatives, doesn't work. I'm talking from the PvP side though. For PvE I can imagine slightly increased recharge rates.
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and that made Destiny FUN. gun games get boring.... real fast.
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Point taken
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They get boring for casual and bad players.
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Edited by TheBeejAbides: 7/18/2017 9:44:49 PMplease... check my stats... see if i am casual or bad.
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Pretty average
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right.... but not casual or bad.
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The good thing is fewer easy kills for casual and bad players
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I don't get this. All players, casual or not have abilities. All can have those 'easy kills' you seem to despise. Better gun skills still prevail.
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i've been killed 69,000 times in the crucible. I never minded getting killed. Its a freaking video game. i fear no man. i only fear boredom. and Why is getting killed a bad thing? Its not like you didn't get those easy kills, too. You're gonna miss them and then you'll have to face that you might be kind of average too.
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Not really. It is boring for everybody who wants to play a game that is not COD. Look...I played 20 games so far and I got to use my super 5 times. And in three of those times I killed 1 person because my super ran out before there was another target to be found. Efficiency was 1.67 or higher. But yeah....1 super every 4 matches is ridoculous.
