Well, I think you might be missing part of the context of my post. If a person is comparing their BETA char to their 400 light level char with exotic armor, gear, and ALL perk trees/options unlocked...isn't it possible it's a faulty comparison? Also, as someone that has played and still does play MANY FPS's, i'm pretty sure there's a LOT more you'd have to do to Destiny to liken it to CoD. If they added a vehicle in Destiny PVP would you then start saying, "ugh, if you want Battlefield, go play Battlefield" ?? Seems like a rather faulty stance when it's clear that supers alone are not the separation between this game and CoD.