I saw a few E3 D2 PvP video's 4vs4 and they looked very boring somehow. I missed something, but i don't know what. I think that the surroundings look too dead. Like the Nuke was thrown and there are only 8 players alive on the planet. The surroundings should be more alive like the stores still open or tomato's and banana's still being sold :) Everything is so closed :( But one thing Bungie has listened to me: Submachine guns :)