originally posted in:Crime Community
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[i]Murder is not about lust and it’s not about violence. It’s about possession. When you feel the last breath of life coming out of the woman, you look into her eyes. At the point, it’s being God[/i]. -Ted Bundy
[b]TLDR:[/b]
Born: November 1946
Died: January 1989 (electric chair)
Victims killed: 30+
[b]Interesting notes:[/b]
-Escaped from jail twice
-Was married and had a child while in jail
-Very good at changing appearances
-Considered to look generic
[u][b]BACKGROUND:[/b][/u]
Bundy was born in a wife shelter for unwed mothers on November 24, 1946. The identity of his father is unknown, while his birth certificate says the farther was a airforce vet his mother denies this saying his farther was sailor. It should be noted that there was allegations that an abusive grandfather to Bundy was the father but no DNA evidence has been given for this claim.
Bundy was raised in Philadelphia by his grandparents so that his mother could avoid the social controversy of the time, being that she was a young unmarried mother. Family, friends and even Bundy were told that his mother was actually his older sister and his grandparents were the paternal parents. It is unclear how but at some point in his teen years he discovered that he was being lied to and that his 'older sister' was actually his mother (I know, it's complicated). This frustrated him deeply and he resented his family, specifically his birth mother, this seems to be the start of his hatred of women.
Bundy has given conflicting reports about his later relationship with his grandparents, sometimes calling them racists and bullies while also saying he loved and respected them (these don't have to be conflicting but in the context that he says it, it seems so)
According to an auntie of Bundy, when Bundy was 3 he surrounded sleeping family members with knives and would watch and wait for them to wake up, this hasn't been backed/denied by anyone else who knew him.
Bundy himself claimed that he was an introvert because 'he didn't understand personal relationships' and he had no idea how to start a friendship while other classmates claimed that he was well liked and was 'A medium fish in a large pond'
[b][u]FIRST MURDERS:[/u][/b]
Bundy has said many different stories when talking about his first crimes, the only consistent claim is that he started around 1969, he claimed to different people that he only kidnapped during this year while telling others he killed two people this year. Both claims can't be verified and he would refuse to go into detail about them.
Detectives investigating the case believed that he may of started even earlier and in his teenage years as early as 14. However he denies these claims
His first recorded murders were in 1974 when he was 27 however it is suspicious that he knew so much about killing and hiding evidence at this time.
He broke into one women's home while she was sleeping and repeatedly hit her with a metal bed frame pole, luckily she survived the attack.
At a near 1 a month rate women in their early 20's were going missing, usually on their way back from events but he was even known to break into homes and carry the owners away.
[u][b]MODUS OPERANDI:[/b][/u]
Bundy's victims shared certain traits in common, being early to mid 20's white, attractive females with parted hair.
He would abduct victims hitchhiking and later even go on a rampage in a dorm attacking people but his most common and well known way to kill was to pose as an injured person with a sling or crutches and ask these women to bring something to his car, when they got their he would hit them with crowbars and drive the bodies away.
[u][b]ARREST:[/b] [/u]
Bundy was seen by a patrol car driving suspiciously during the early morning with no front passenger seat, he was stopped and inspection of the car showed that he had: Garbage bags, ski masks, an ice pick, a crowbar, rope and handcuffs.
During another search they found hair matching victims in his car, he was then put in a lineup and witnesses identified him as someone they saw walking around with crutches during the time of women's abductions.
Bundy would later escape jail two times, this post is getting long enough but I do recommend looking into his escapes in your own time.
On trial for the murders of 3 women he was given the death sentence, after this he would admit to killing ~50 more.
[u][b]TRIVA[/b][/u]
-Bundy represented himself in court and would refer to himself in third person
-He was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, this may explain him changing stories in certain moods
-He was very against pornography stating that this was his motive
-Bundy's car is on display at museums
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When's the next one
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You should do Eric and Dylan and also do a section to talk about their psychology.
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Does he also have a bloody shirt in the museum next to the car?
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Zac Efron is going to play Ted Bundy in a future film https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/16/zac-efron-ted-bundy-joe-berlinger-extremely-wicked-shockingly-evil-vile
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[quote]farther[/quote] I wonder how different he would've been, had his family been more "normal". Seems like it had a big impact on him
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Edited by blade329: 5/16/2017 5:20:03 PMI'm a big crime buff. I've read a ton about this guy. I made the mistake of seeing that recent movie about him. It was graphic and disturbing. However, it really makes you think more about the horror he committed on these women. Reading about it doesn't have the impact as seeing it does. It made me wish he could come back to life just so we could execute him again and again and again. One of the most evil men that ever lived. He was human in name only. Anne Rule, who knew him personally, wrote a very good book about him. I recommend it.
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David Parker Ray and HH Holmes are good ones to cover that aren't as well known as some others.
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Formally requesting John Wayne Gacy for a future edition.
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I think what we can take from this is that staying away from pornography saves lives. [spoiler]jk. Interesting read and good post mate.[/spoiler]
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Tad Cummins
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Do the bay harbour butcher or the dark defender next.
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Do Jeffrey Dahmer next or BTK aka "DeeJ"
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If I may make a suggestion, why don't you do 1 famous killer, then do 1 unknown. Just flip it back & forth, then at the end, you could say who was featured next time.
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Edited by varvatos: 5/16/2017 7:35:53 PMThis makes me feel uneasy. [spoiler]the chessboard killer or Jeffery darlhmer [/spoiler]
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Sent request to join. I really enjoy this stuff. As a psychologist, I always thought it would be neat to be some kind of FBI analyst but I don't have the stomach for it.
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Edited by Corvo Attano: 5/16/2017 2:57:00 PMImpressive. I'd like to see more. Preferably Jack the Ripper or the Zodiac killer.
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Doesn't particularly interest me much but have a bump for the effort. I think you made a couple of typos up there by the way. Going to make any crime posts that aren't about individuals?
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I heard they were making either a show or movie about Ted Bundy.
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Jim jones
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I like these
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Edited by Burgergurgensen: 5/16/2017 8:29:36 PMI find it obvious that people like this are more engineered than born. I'm not a total sociopath (debatable) but I am very desensitized to certain things like death and killing, not to the point that I'm willing to enact anything like that upon others, I hope to never be called to war, but I don't have a weak stomach to it. I have more of a frontiersman mentality, life is life and death is death. My dad trapped animals and collected the furs for many years. While I was growing up I went with him through the "trap line" to check traps and collect raccoons and beaver and whatever else he caught. When there was a raccoon in a trap, my dad would methodically and efficiently walk up to the mammal, put a .22 bullet between it's eyes, and release it from the trap then throw it in the back of the truck all in one motion. On to the next one. Now being that I was just a kid I didn't fully understand what the point of all this was, but I had no choice so I just kind of hung out, sometimes being the one to carry the still kicking animal back to the truck while my dad reset the trap. I never really thought much of it at the time, but looking back on it now I know it hardened me in a way. I don't really devalue the life of an animal, I mean, I absolutely despise the mass production of meat via cattle hogs and chickens, but I also don't really feel emotionally attached to living things. Everything dies. We're a disgusting species, we kill anything for money and power, and there's little to do to stop us from harvesting the earth. So when I read things like this and things like it, I don't see good and evil, I just see a bad case where a person was not loved, or had some other form of upbringing that allowed the nasty side of human beings to be fostered by zealous motivation. Similar to being taught a religion from birth. [u]Edit[/u]: also mental illness can definitely bring this out in people too
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I like a good murder case, and these are interesting because they are factual.
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I actually like these, not that your shit posts aren't good these are just a nice change.
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Ok then...
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This is some pretty good content. Keep it up!