So I've been going through the grimoire since I'm bored and I discovered this from the grimoire card: Sylok: The defiled
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...Gragghh ...g-ggglorious pain!!!
>>Memory synapses are firing.
>Finally. Let’s see what we’ve... wh— what is that?
...Blllessssseeddd is the N-Nastareth!!!
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What the absolute hell is this Knight talking about?
I decided to dig deeper and see if this was mentioned anywhere else in the grimoire. I loaded up the Isthar Collective website and searched with the Key Word as "Nastareth"
I got only one result, and it was from the same damn card from my quote.
So what in the everliving honey badger sh#t is the Nastareth?!
Well, I have a few theories.
1. It's the Hive Pantheon. Simply put, gods are considered blessed by their worshippers. It wouldn't be to far fetched to think the Nastareth is the Hive Pantheon.
2. Nastareth is the darkness. Hear me out. Sylok is a Taken knight. That means the darkness literally consumed him. So it could be the name of the Darkness, or perhaps a Representation of it.
3. Nastareth could be another name for Oryx. Later in the card Sylok says this:
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...Ammm I strong enough, Oryx? Is it ttt-timme?
>>It’s too much! It’s overloading!
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This can mean that Nastareth is possibly a another more intimate name for Oryx. I say intimate because Sylok may have been a minor son of Oryx. A comparison to this is from the Bible (That's as far as I'm gonna go, I don't want to get banned)
Those are my three theories. There may be more in game, but I haven't found any what so ever. If you do, please let me know.
Fellow Lore Theorists, it's time to figure this the -blam!- out!!!
Edit: Mr. Haffoc had this to say.
[quote]I'm guessing it's the name of the Deep/Darkness, which is the actual power that takes things. Oryx just wields the power.
Ikora thinks the power behind Oryx is the same power we encountered in the black garden.
[quote]Oryx wields this power. But Oryx did not make it. We face the same flower we met in the Black Garden.
The process is simple: an aperture opens, like a jaw, and swallows a living thing. It passes into — another place. Later, it returns.
What returns is...
I try to use the word ‘shadow’ but Eris hisses at me. A shadow is a flat projection cast by a light and an object. Less real. Eris insists that these Taken are more real, somehow. She uses words like inhabited, exalted, rendered final...
Is this power blind? Just a natural energy Oryx discovered? I cannot believe it.
My Hidden tell me that the Taken shine with seething, negative light. As if the universe is curling up around them. As if they radiate some pathology that decays into our world as nothingness...
The Taken serve Oryx. But I think those jaws lead elsewhere.[/quote]
Interestingly Rasputin refers to the Darkness/Deep that he fought against, just before the collapse, as IT (The Queen of Final Shapes)
That other place is possibly the universe where the Darkness/Deep exists in it's true form, we know Oryx had to leave our universe to meet and commune with the Deep.[/quote]
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There's not enough information to make any sort of speculation of of Nastareth.
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Nastareth does not translate, nor mean. nothing. HOWEVER, Nazareth is the childhood home of Jesus. So...
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Maybe it's a where. 😱
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its where jesus defiled sylok
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Jesus of Nazareth aka the nastareth did you ever read the bible or see king of kings
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Doubt it was another name by Oryx,throughout his life Oryx has 3 names:Aurash(before he met the worm gods),Auryx(after he became male and took the king-morph) and Oryx(after he discovered the taken power).I doubt Oryx would approve of his subjects calling him by an intimate name.I do think you hit the nail on the head with the other theory,with the nastereth being the collective name of the hive gods or possibly worm gods.
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I find it interesting how the darkness is referred to by Rasputin as the [b]Queen[/b] of Final Shapes, whereas Oryx is The Taken [b]King[/b]. Any thoughts?
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Be nice if this was all available in game. .
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Or the art team makes up random names for "flavor" to make it seems like there's a huge unwritten back story with all kinds of vaguely referenced shadowy figures that aren't actually really important.
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Lol those Hive weirdos worship the Nesquik bunny.
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Edited by FrenetiCreature: 4/18/2017 8:55:57 AMKinda sounds like Nazareth. Maybe it's comparable to that. Kinda like you mention a bible parallel. Maybe, like you said about him possibly being Oryx's son, it's where he is from? He's the son of a God, Oryx, and he is from Nastareth. I don't know. It's just an idea.
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Nastareth is Pee Wee Herman's real name.
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FAke lore!
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SYLOK THE DEFILED! [spoiler]wants oryx's king sized penis[/spoiler]
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Wasn't that an 80's band?
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As a Vex, this triggers me.
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Where Jesus lived
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Jesus's house land place .
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Isn't that something from lord of the rings?
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Sounds like this dude reth is one nasta customer
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Nastareth was a commercial pilot for the chocolate crucifix you could purchase for Easter. Someone clever combined Nestle with Nazareth.
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I have nothing to add but this was a damn good topic
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I'm no lore theorist but Jesus was from Nazareth, Nazareth is the name of a college known for having prudish women. So could Sylok be talking about a hive witch that slighted his advances and now he's kidnapped her?
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The hives description of the darkness itself
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It's pronounced Nazarene. 😂