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4/12/2017 5:28:24 PM
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I'm an adult with a job, and I think it's stupid to pay for something before you have any idea what you're buying. I'll probably preorder eventually, but waiting until actual information comes out is just good common sense.
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  • They've not earned the money yet. There is no product you can buy, no specs to review, nothing to discuss. Literally all there is to know about this product called Destiny2 is that it supposedly exists and will supposedly be available this fall. Until they drop gameplay footage to prove the product is real, AND open a beta for everyone to try, they will not have earned even a penny from me. I've pre-ordered games in the past. One I sprung for the Collector's Edition because I liked the original game so much (not going to happen with D2). The community was kept in the loop: constant communication from the devs. Gameplay clips, class discussion, game mode overviews, until the beta was available for all to play. And you know what, they even included a feedback feature IN THE BETA so you could give them live feedback while playing it. Those people Earned my preorder money, and all the money I spent on the in-game store afterwards. Communication is key and Bungie's not communicating at all. If that doesnt change come May, I doubt I'll buy D2 until it goes on sale on Black Friday.

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  • Past performance is a pretty good predictor of future behavior. If you've enjoyed Destiny you'll likely enjoy Destiny 2 barring major changes to the game engine. If you're one of the forum rage machines you will likely continue to be. That's pretty much how this works.

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  • The question isn't even necessarily that you enjoyed it or not, it's also about value of DLC over time, continued live support, and whether or not having the game now vs at year 2 has any advantages

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  • You're overthinking this.

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  • Nah I'm just thinking about how ripped off everyone felt after Crota dropped in Y1

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  • I am an adult with a job too. I agree with you to some extent, but it sounds like you wouldn't buy tickets to a show in Vegas or even a movie for that matter. You only know what the billboards and commercials show, but you really have no idea what is to be expected. You make the purchase because you are looking to be entertained by what other minds have created for you. This is what causes you to spend your hard earned cash - personal enjoyment (whatever it may be for everyone). Other items you might not purchase because no outcome of the final product is known: Sporting Events A dinner at a new restaurant Kite flying lessons _______________ (fill in the blank) I am personally not happy with how Destiny 1 changed from Beta to its current state. I am not planning on buying Destiny 2 for myself - I may get it as a gift though. Even then Bungie will have to impress me with PvP changes to come back. Maybe I will try Overwatch. I have seen about 5 minutes of game play. Is that enough reason to plop down $40 bucks for it...? It's on sale from $60. Good deal right?

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  • It's high noon somewhere in the world

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  • [spoiler]You do know you can cancel preorders, right?[/spoiler]

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  • Some of them you can, sure, but not everywhere and not from every retailer

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  • Edited by : ^ ): 4/12/2017 5:57:21 PM
    Exactly. I'm not one to tell people who to spend their money, people really spend their money before they even see actual gameplay? I just don't understand that logic. It's such an impulsive decision, and actually a bad way to spend money.

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  • [quote]I'm an adult with a job, and I think it's stupid to pay for something before you have any idea what you're buying. I'll probably preorder eventually, but waiting until actual information comes out is just good common sense.[/quote] Exactly.

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  • Paying nothing to 5 dollars to get extra stuff even when it is cancellable and refundable is not smart? What's the difference

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  • And as an adult, I find it stupid that other "adults" think that putting $5 down on a game that can be cancelled and returned at any moment even after release is paying for something before knowing anything about it. No it's simply reserving a copy of a game that you think may or may not be popular and you want to make sure there is a copy in GameStop available for you. Gaming companies DO NOT see a dime from preorders. They are mainly used to benefit the retailer in order to have an accurate number of copies available based off perceived interest from preorders.

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  • Your argument only works if you preorder at GameStop, which is the only retailer I'm aware of that offers refunds on preorders as a standard service.

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  • Steam and other PC based vendors for games allow cancellations up to the day before which allows plenty of time to see whether you want to buy the game.

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  • Good info, I didn't know that. I think it was assumed that the conversation was oriented towards console games though.

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  • Please tell me one vendor for console or PC that does not allow a cancellation of a preorder before release. you won't be able to because they don't exist. Pre-orders are not binding or finalized sales. You will also find companies that are willing to refund even after the game comes out but you are typically only allowed one "get out of jail free" card per account. I simply mentioned steam as a point of reference, didn't think I needed to list every vendor haha.

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  • [quote]Please tell me one vendor for console or PC that does not allow a cancellation of a preorder before release.[/quote] PSN

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  • PSN allows refunds on preorders up to the day before if you speak to customer service(have done it several times), try again...

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  • Edited by CaptainMericah: 4/12/2017 8:00:44 PM
    PSN, Amazon, Microsoft Store, and even Steam says that preorders that go longer than 3 months aren't refundable. Crying to customer services isn't a guarantee that you'll get refunded. Good for you for being an expert cry baby apparently. Refund laws also vary by location. Maybe you live in a refund friendly location

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  • With play time like that.....don't comment. You aren't their audience

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  • What are you even talking about?

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  • Your casual ass play time. They could care less if you bought the game, it isn't aimed at "you people"

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  • Yeah sure. Tell yourself that playing video games for x amount of hours makes you special. That's cool.

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  • [quote]With play time like that.....don't comment. You aren't their audience[/quote] Don't be naive, he purchased a copy like anyone else. I guarantee they don't care about his amount of time in game as long as he pays. Next you'll say they'll be examining k/d for their next marketing campaign.

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