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Ahh! It’s Armsday!: [3/22/17] “How Banshee never got his groove back.”

This week’s Armsday is brought to you by: Tex Mechanica! [i]”Hoooweee! Let me go & tell ye about this humdinger of a gun from Tex Mechanica! Dis humdingerfrattlesnakegunnashootthesweatoffanyolecrucibabyewkinfindwithitsapplewoodsmokedsights, itsgotaprecisonbeerencasedscope, ajimbobrapidfiredownunderfingatrigga & amagezeeenofbout45cowbellybuttons! Tex Mechanica! Yeehaaawww!”[/i] Ahh! It’s Armsday! The trio is back once again, I am Aerikx (PVE), alongside Haunter (PVP), & Kroppin (Bonus Orders for both PVE & PVP). When our Armsday orders combine we create “Captain Disappointment”! Let’s get to the rolls… _____ [b][u]Disclaimers:[/u][/b] All recommendations no matter how good or bad are pure opinion. My recommendations are 100% for PVE & strive for Static Performance vs Situational Performance. [b][u]God Rolls[/u][/b] There are 2 types of God Rolls. Community = Popular Opinion/Suggestion. Personal = A roll that perfectly fits/enhances [u]YOUR[/u] individual playstyle. [b][u]PVP[/u][/b] I will [b][u]NOT[/u][/b] be making PVP recommendations. Haunter will be covering PVP recommendations in the comments below. _____ [b][u]Legend:[/u][/b] HC = Handcannon, SR = Scout Rifle, AR = Auto Rifle, PR = Pulse Rifle SPR = Sniper Rifle, FR = Fusion Rifle, RL = Rocket Launcher HCR = High Caliber Round, APR = Armor Piercing Rounds, EXR = Explosive Rounds AoO = Army of One, EotS = Eye of the Storm, LitC = Luck in the Chamber SPS = Single Point Sling, Hand-Laid Stock = HLS, Close &/or Personal = C&P [b][u]Omolon[/u][/b] [i]”Greetings, from Omolon! Today Omolon wishes to reassure you that Omolon weapons are rigorously tested on the most vile of refuse. *Scene plays of Omolon workers shooting piles of Hakke & Suros guns* So not only does Omolon make sure your weapons are reliable, we also clean up the environment! Everyone wins! Omolon! Dragging you kicking & screaming into an ever more mentally challenged future!”[/i] [b][i][u]Uffern HC4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Fastdraw/Quickdraw/Sureshot AoO Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/Underdog Roll 2: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight AoO Quickdraw/Injection Mold Icarus/EotS Roll 3: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight LitC Quickdraw/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/EotS Recommendation: Roll 1 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save Roll 1 is this week’s pick if you wish to be rid of your Uffern Order. AoO is fanatastic on HCs due to their tendency to kill in 2 or 3 shots. Reinforced repairs the Uffern’s Range, & Life Support will get you out a jam. Due to the HP regen nerf Life Support is a lot more useful now. [b][i][u]Cocytus SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Candle/Flash/Signal Rescue Mag Snapshot/HLS AoO/EotS Roll 2: Spark/Flash/Signal Life Support Lightweight/Casket Mag AoO/Exhumed Roll 3: Candle/Torch/Signal Icarus SPS/HLS AoO/Exhumed Recommendation: None Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save Last week’s pick was better than all 3 of these combined. He doesn’t sell the Cocytus often so hold onto this order. [b][i][u]Tuonela SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Spark/Torch/Impulse Rescue Mag Snapshot/Casket Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 2: Candle/Torch/Impulse Triple Tap Lightweight/Feather Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 3: Spark/Flash/Impulse Icarus SPS/Casket Mag Firefly/Danger Close Recommendation: Roll 1 or 3 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save We were so close with Roll 1, if only Rescue Mag was Triple Tap. Roll 1 & 3 are nearly tied. Use your personal preference IF you want to burn the order. Rescue Mag vs Icarus is what it comes down to, but remember SR in air accuracy is sorely lacking (unless you are a Sunsinger). I urgently suggest waiting till next week. [b][i][u]Thesan SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Void Spark/Flash AoO Snapshot/Braced Frame Unflinching/EotS Roll 2: Arc Candle/Flash AoO Enhanced Battery/HLS Life Support/EotS Roll 3: Solar Spark/Flash Grenadier Skip Rounds/Injection Mold Rangefinder/EotS Recommendation: Any Redeem/Save/Reorder: Reorder So this week all 3 rolls shine, thankfully we can reorder, so you may want to pick the element of Thesan you are missing. Roll 2 – This is top pick due to the fact you can swap out Enhanced Battery & HLS (MAX Stability at cost of some Range) depending on your playstyle/situation, Life Support also will come in handy in a pinch, EotS for those who like to live life on the edge…literally. Roll 1 – Nearly tied with Roll 2 due to Braced Frame (MAX Stability, takes away 1 round of ammo), EotS same as above. Roll 3 – Grenadier, Injection Mold (High enough stability at the expense of a tiny bit of range), Rangefinder to negate that most of the range penalty. [b][u]Hakke[/u][/b] [i]”Morning folks, Mr. Hakke here. Today I wanted to tell you about the unbeatable quality of Hakke. You see, every Hakke gun undergoes a 1000 point inspection to ensure that…oh look at these flowers all dry & wilting. I’ve got just the thing. *Pulls out an Omolon gun & squirts each flower 2 times* There you go little fellas, all nice & pristine like a Hakke. *tosses the Omolon into a trash can* Now, where was I? Oh yes, Hakke guns protect our Guardians, like how our Guardians protect us. Hakke! Just one round, takes em down!”[/i] [b][i][u]Herja-D[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SC Holo/LB Assault Crowd Control Full Auto Snapshot/Hand Loaded/Reinforced Barrel Roll 2: SC Holo/LD Watchdog AoO Zen Moment Snapshot/Hand Loaded/HLS Roll 3: GA Post/SD Thermal Crowd Control Feeding Frenzy SPS/Hand Loaded/HLS Recommendation: Roll 3 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Redeem Holy [Bleep]! Roll 3! Crowd Control + Feeding Frenzy is a God Combo, add in Hand Loaded for Range?! Stability + Range + DPS! Redeem this order now! [b][i][u]Tamar-D[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Arc ATA Scout/ATD Raptor Private Eye Partial Refund EXR/APR/Injection Mold Roll 2: Solar ATB Long Range/ATD Raptor Counterbalance Feeding Frenzy EXR/Quickdraw/Injection Mold Roll 3: Arc ATB Long Range/ATD Raptor Surplus Guerilla Fighter EXR/Quickdraw/Injection Mold Recommendation: Roll 2 or 3 Redeem/Save/Reorder: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Roll 2 is a beast in the right hands, Counterbalance + Injection Mold make this a VERY stable & predictable sniper. Feeding Frenzy is a wonderful reload perk. This sniper is a Jack of All Trades, master of none. It has wonderful range, stability, & reload. But you won’t be DPSing bosses/Ultras, or clearing crowds. But you will be popping eyeballs from miles away, with consistency. Great for add control. In a group setting, this is for passive/support players. [b][u]Suros[/u][/b] [i]Precision. Stable. *Flashes to a leaking Omolon Gun spraying fluid out all sides*. Reliable. *Flashes to a Hakke gun in a dirty toilet bowl*. Ribbed. Crisp. Stimulating. Deadly. SUROS.”[/i] [b][i][u]DIS-43[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SLO-19/SPO-28-SRO57 Hammer Forged/Feather Mag Partial Refund Snapshot/HLS Roll 2: SLO-12/SPO-28-SRO57 HCR/Appended Magazine Full Auto Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel Roll 3: SLO-19/SPO-26-SRO37 Perfect Balance/Feather Mag Hidden Hand Speed Reload/Reinforced Barrel Recommendation: Roll 1 or 2 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save So, Roll 1 has Hammer Forged which is a nice no penalty perk, however it’s Range increase is negated by HLS, but this SR strongly benefits from Stability as it has some kick to it. If only Full auto was there instead of Partial Refund. Roll 2 has HCR + Full Auto, so if you can handle its kick, you have a good SR that will stop & keep enemies right where you want them. Roll 3 screams PVP but that’s Haunter’s call. *Hears an Arc Blade in the distance* uh oh! [b][i][u]PDX-41[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SLO-12/SPO-28/SPO-57 Fitted Stock/Oiled Frame Secret Round Speed Reload/Rifled Barrel Roll 2: SLO-12/SPO-26/SPO-57 Perfect Balance/Casket Mag Spray & Play Lightweight/HLS Roll 3: SLO-19/SPO-26/SPO-57 HCR/Oiled Frame Headseeker Lightweight/Smallbore Recommendation: Roll 2 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save Been ages since a PDX of any kind was sold so I suggest waiting for better rolls. Roll 2 however gives you options. MAX Stability + some Agility (heh) = Perfect + Light or Max Stability, More Ammo, Less Range = Casket + HLS [b][i][u]JLB-47[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Solar Warhead Verniers/Linear Compensator/Hard Launch Heavy Payload/Flared Magwell Who’s Next Perfect Balance/Snapshot Roll 2: Solar Warhead Verniers/Smart Drift Control/Hard Launch Heavy Payload/Speed Reload Tripod Javelin/Quickdraw Roll 3: Solar Aggressive Launch/Linear Compensator/Coutermass SPS/Flared Magwell Feeding Frenzy Perfect Balance/Quickdraw Recommendation: Roll 2 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save This is a rare sell. So don’t burn this order just yet. If you must burn it, Roll 2 is your huckleberry. Warhead Verniers is THE best RL mod/scope you can get, Heavy Payload + Javelin will just about MAX your Blast Radius & Velocity, & Tripod gets you 3 in the mag. This is a GREAT RL to dumbfire. Dumbfiring takes practice but once you get it down, it’s just as good as any RL with tracking, this RL will clear out groups with the effectiveness of a Nova Bomb. [b][i][u]Next Week’s Orders[/u][/i][/b] [u]Jingukogo-D[/u]: Pass Mid-High Impact/High Stability/Low Range/Mag - 3 LC: Expert [u]JLB-42[/u]: 50/50 High Blast Radius/High Velocity/Mag - 2 LC: Novice [u]Strongbow-D[/u]: Order Mid-High Impact/High Stability/Low Range/Mag - 5 LC: Intermediate [u]Thesan FR4[/u]: Order Nigh Max Impact/Very High Stability/High Range/Mag - 5 LC: Novice [u]Lyudmila-D[/u]: Order High Impact/Mid Stability/Mid/High Range/Mag - 33 LC: Intermediate FYI, the Jingukogo is quite nasty due to it’s fast (for a shotgun) reload. However, with only 3 shots, it takes a expert lvl player to make it a beast.. Like the Tamar (w) vs Aoife (L) & the JLB-42 (L) vs the JLB-47 (W); the Strongbow is better than the Jingukogo in almost every stat. _____ Well that is it for this week’s Armsday. I wonder if Age of Triumph will bless Armsday with better rolls or new guns? Be safe! Guns Up Guardians!

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  • Thanks for the weekly post, it's much appreciated. But I disagree about Herja D, as far as PvE is concerned. 1. Counterbalance is a prerequisite on a Hakke pulse rifle. 2. Crowd Control and Feeding Frenzy lack synergy, they are at odds with each other in what they want you to do following a kill. Spray and Play matches better with Crowd Control on small mag weapons such as pulses and hand cannons. Herja D also has suspect range for a PvE pulse rifle, a poor fit for Hand-laid Stock. Lyudmila D is better for Hand-laid Stock because of its huge base range stat. For Herja D I'd wait for Counterbalance, Crowd Control, and something like Fitted Stock in the 3rd column (small stability boost with no hit to range or reload).

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  • Any suggestions on Eirene? They look cool but I am reaaally stupid and I always made bad decisions that I later regret. Especially irl - I am a total disaster zone. Please have pity on my poor soul and help me pick an eirene today.

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  • First, thanks for always taking the time to make these posts and recommendations! They're very valuable and helpful! I was wondering though what perks you're looking for on the JLB-47. It looks like roll 2 is pretty solid this week.

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    • Does anyone use a Banshee ordered weapon as their go to gun? I've had a couple fun and decent guns that came from orders, but nothing that outshines what I've found elsewhere.

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      • Bumping this for my RL friend.

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      • Foiled again! Arminius finally has Counterbalance BUT that's all it has for stability. Other two rolls have Braced Frame but not this one?! Wtf!!

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        • Edited by fluffy frogurt: 3/23/2017 3:49:42 PM
          Wait am I crazy? I got the tuonela on my hunter from banshee yesterday. It has: Spark/flash/impulse Triple tap Extended mag/casket mag Firefly/eots

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          • [b][u]PVP[/u][/b] [b][u]Omolon[/u][/b] [b][i][u]Uffern HC4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Fastdraw/Quickdraw/Sureshot AoO Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/Underdog Roll 2: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight AoO Quickdraw/Injection Mold Icarus/EotS Roll 3: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight LitC Quickdraw/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/EotS Recommendation: None as there's no rifled, however roll 3 could be really good for those willing to hurt the stability, reinforced for range, life support to help in a pinch, litc for 2 tapping and truesight [b][i][u]Cocytus SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Candle/Flash/Signal Rescue Mag Snapshot/HLS AoO/EotS Roll 2: Spark/Flash/Signal Life Support Lightweight/Casket Mag AoO/Exhumed Roll 3: Candle/Torch/Signal Icarus SPS/HLS AoO/Exhumed Recommendation: None, the gun can roll better options. [b][i][u]Tuonela SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Spark/Torch/Impulse Rescue Mag Snapshot/Casket Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 2: Candle/Torch/Impulse Triple Tap Lightweight/Feather Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 3: Spark/Flash/Impulse Icarus SPS/Casket Mag Firefly/Danger Close Recommendation: None, this week has more pve oriented perks. [b][i][u]Thesan SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Void Spark/Flash AoO Snapshot/Braced Frame Unflinching/EotS Roll 2: Arc Candle/Flash AoO Enhanced Battery/HLS Life Support/EotS Roll 3: Solar Spark/Flash Grenadier Skip Rounds/Injection Mold Rangefinder/EotS Recommendation: No braced/hot swap or braced/rangefinder (or all 3) combo yet. I'd wait. [b][u]Hakke[/u][/b] [b][i][u]Herja-D[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SC Holo/LB Assault Crowd Control Full Auto Snapshot/Hand Loaded/Reinforced Barrel Roll 2: SC Holo/LD Watchdog AoO Zen Moment Snapshot/Hand Loaded/HLS Roll 3: GA Post/SD Thermal Crowd Control Feeding Frenzy SPS/Hand Loaded/HLS Recommendation: Roll 3 (but only if you can manage the recoil and don't necessarily need counterbalance), 3 has crowd control, always welcome after finishing one target and needing some help with the next, HLS which while results in range loss makes up for with its stability buff and feeding frenzy which makes the gun snappy. [b][i][u]Tamar-D[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Arc ATA Scout/ATD Raptor Private Eye Partial Refund EXR/APR/Injection Mold Roll 2: Solar ATB Long Range/ATD Raptor Counterbalance Feeding Frenzy EXR/Quickdraw/Injection Mold Roll 3: Arc ATB Long Range/ATD Raptor Surplus Guerilla Fighter EXR/Quickdraw/Injection Mold Recommendation: Still not a Hakke sniper fan, in the same slot you could have an lrd/longbow/defiance of yasmin/etc which gives much more aim assist alongside other more effective perks. That said roll 2 isn't bad, quickdraw will speed ads and ready time and feeding frenzy is always nice. [b][u]Suros[/u][/b] [b][i][u]DIS-43[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SLO-19/SPO-28-SRO57 Hammer Forged/Feather Mag Partial Refund Snapshot/HLS Roll 2: SLO-12/SPO-28-SRO57 HCR/Appended Magazine Full Auto Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel Roll 3: SLO-19/SPO-26-SRO37 Perfect Balance/Feather Mag Hidden Hand Speed Reload/Reinforced Barrel Recommendation: Full auto/max stability isn't up just yet but like aerikx mentioned roll 3 has a decent lineup with hidden hand/perfect balance and the slo-19 sight [b][i][u]PDX-41[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: SLO-12/SPO-28/SPO-57 Fitted Stock/Oiled Frame Secret Round Speed Reload/Rifled Barrel Roll 2: SLO-12/SPO-26/SPO-57 Perfect Balance/Casket Mag Spray & Play Lightweight/HLS Roll 3: SLO-19/SPO-26/SPO-57 HCR/Oiled Frame Headseeker Lightweight/Smallbore Recommendation: I'd wait on a perfect balance/counterbalance/rifled barrel roll but roll 3 isn't bad either with HCR, headseeker and smallbore for those with less patience. [b][i][u]JLB-47[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Solar Warhead Verniers/Linear Compensator/Hard Launch Heavy Payload/Flared Magwell Who’s Next Perfect Balance/Snapshot Roll 2: Solar Warhead Verniers/Smart Drift Control/Hard Launch Heavy Payload/Speed Reload Tripod Javelin/Quickdraw Roll 3: Solar Aggressive Launch/Linear Compensator/Coutermass SPS/Flared Magwell Feeding Frenzy Perfect Balance/Quickdraw Recommendation: No grenades and horseshoes = no for pvp usage.

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            • Ari 41 order with hand laid stock hammer forged and focused fire... [spoiler]yay?[/spoiler]

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              • THANK YOU! always look forward to these

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                • I cried when I saw what he had for the Cocytus and went ahead and got the 2nd roll for the Tuonela to at least clear a spot in my primary weapons. More than likely regardless of the rolls - I'll be cashing the order for Cocytus next week.

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                  • Hey Scooter, the Catch-A-Ride is that way.

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                  • So glad I picked up the God Cocytus last week. I was almost going to wait for it to roll with Triple Tap, a stability perk, and Firefly, but that would have been very stupid lol I would never be that lucky

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                  • I have an Unbent tree with 69 bullets, focused fire, and counterbalance.

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                  • You know with all the great raid weapons on the way I will likely wind up deleting a couple of great chances I have been holding on to as there just clearly won't be room for basically two versions of each primary from the raids now what a crock of shit that is.

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                  • bumpty bump bump

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                  • Uffern HC4 Roll 1: Fastdraw/Quickdraw/Sureshot AoO Snapshot/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/Underdog Roll 2: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight AoO Quickdraw/Injection Mold Icarus/EotS Roll 3: Fastdraw/Steadyhand/Truesight LitC Quickdraw/Reinforced Barrel Life Support/EotS Recommendation: Roll 1 Redeem/Save/Reorder: Save Roll 1 is this week’s pick if you wish to be rid of your Uffern Order. AoO is fanatastic on HCs due to their tendency to kill in 2 or 3 shots. Reinforced repairs the Uffern’s Range, & Life Support will get you out a jam. Due to the HP regen nerf Life Support is a lot more useful now. Thanks for the very detailed Armsday breakdown. I actually disagree with picking roll 1 over roll 3. AoO reduces grenade and melee cooldown by 8%, only shaving about 3 secs off. AoO is a 2.5 tier perk, arguably a tier 3 perk. Roll 3 basically swaps out out AoO for LiTC, which is accepted as a tier 1 perk. It's even better on a low magazine HC like the Uffern. Having one random bullet with 30% damage gives you a chance of 2 tapping guardians, and is an overall better perk. The only other difference is Roll 1 has sureshot, while Roll 3 has Trueshot. Most will agree both are equally viable, and it comes down to a matter of preference. My recommendation would be to pick this up. This is only one perk away from being a "community accepted" god roll, since it's missing rifled barrel. But honestly, reinforced adds the same amount of range as rifled barrel (+24). While rifled is the best choice for most HC's, Uffern is a horse of a different color with its insane stability. I would argue Reinforced is a better perk for Uffern since it has plenty of stability to spare, and you don't take a hit to reload speed with Rifled Barrel (Even more important on a low mag HC which you will reload more often). So what's stopping Roll 3 from being a god roll Uffern?

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                    • [quote][b][i][u]Tuonela SR4[/u][/i][/b] Roll 1: Spark/Torch/Impulse Rescue Mag Snapshot/Casket Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 2: Candle/Torch/Impulse Triple Tap Lightweight/Feather Mag Firefly/Surrounded Roll 3: Spark/Flash/Impulse Icarus SPS/Casket Mag Firefly/Danger Close[/quote] I'm calling roll 2 a straight troll. Especially seeing as last week had the exact same roll. Why Lightweight has taken the slot of extended mag twice in a row when all other perks roll the jury ones can't be a coincidence.

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                      • [b][u]Gaheris-D[/u][/b] Rolls: Roll 1: Fastdraw IS/Steadyhand IS Surrounded Spray and Play Speed Reload/HCR/Smallbore Roll 2: Truesight IS/Steadyhand IS Relentless Tracker Who's Next? Speed Reload/EXR/Oiled Frame Roll 3: Truesight IS/Sureshot IS Crowd Control Spray and Play Snapshot/EXR/Smallbore [b][u]Lyudmila-D[/u][/b] Rolls: Roll 1: GB Iron/SD Thermal Headseeker Spray and Play HCR/Speed Reload/Oiled Frame Roll 2: SC Holo/LB Assualt Surrounded Feeding Frenzy SPS/Speed Reload/Oiled Frame Roll 3: GA Post/LB Assault Glass Half Full Spray and Play HCR/Speed Reload/Oiled Frame [b][u]ARI-45[/u][/b] Rolls: Roll 1: SLO-12/SPO-28/SRO-41 Perfect Balance/Appended Magazine Lightweight/Smallbore Rodeo Roll 2: SLO-12/SPO-28/SPO-57 Fitted Stock/Feather Mag Snapshot/Smallbore Hip Fire Roll 3: SLO-12/SPO-26/SPO-57 Hammerforged/Appended Magazine SPS/HLS Private Eye

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                        • I finally claimed my DIS-47 order I'd been holding onto for months. Didn't get a god roll but I picked up last week's okay roll. Banshee can suck my balls now until D2 comes out.

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                        • Im at the point in Destiny where I read the funny dialouge rather than the actual rolls

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                          • I don't know why I bother looking anymore.

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                            • Edited by robinsonc784070: 3/22/2017 7:53:52 PM
                              I missed last week's cocytus roll because I can't play due to not being able to download the last patch that they said did nothing.

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                              • Bump

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                              • "You threw off my grooove!"

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                              • I really love the Cocytus with Firefly/Triple Tap/Casket Mag I have. That Tuonela is tempting tho.

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