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Edited by anomaly_rex: 3/1/2017 5:03:45 AM
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Atheists cannot logically argue against God because of evil

Theodicy (the problem of evil) is an extremely invalid argument from the atheistic Worldview. To argue against evil, you must assume an objective good. Yet, such a source cannot exist under the atheistic presuppositions. According to atheism, there is no good or evil, only the confines of culture and society that mold and shape our perceptions of good and evil. However, if there is no right, then there can truly be no wrong. It's all relative to the person's point of view. Edit: The conversation has been good, friends. I appreciate the respectful way we've composed ourselves tonight/today/whatever time of day it is for you. I'm off to the land of Nod, but keep the comments coming. I'll try to continue replying to as many as I can in the morning. God Bless. Edit 2: Once again, my need for sleep overcomes my desire to continue the discussions. However, if you fine folks are still lively in the morning, we'll continue the discussion. It's been enjoyable, friends! I appreciate the general air of respect, despite our remarkably obvious differences of opinion. Hurexus out.

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  • There is no objective morality. Morality has changed with each culture. For example, slavery, which was condoned by the Bible, has been ended. Inequality of women and homosexuals, condoned in the Bible, has been ended. I pose that there is [u]no right or wrong with the existence of a god[/u]. Divine command theory states that whatever god proclaims is right is right, and whatever is wrong is wrong. For example, when god told the Israelites to slaughter every man, woman, child, and animal of the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:3), you cannot say this is wrong while believing in god. However, secularists can say that slaughtering children is wrong. There can ONLY be morality without a god. Morals change, and the only way to improve upon morality is with secularism.

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