TLDR VERSION, still sorta long. [spoiler]Well in a nutshell, I'm sorta sick of the salt rants without any facts or figures- people probably get dominated once or twice then post here in a rage- streamers as well- no facts or figures, and video editing can skew results. So, what I am tracking is this It's For every 15 games. X/ 15 Games lagged- had red bars (how many in each game?) X/ 15 Games shot me into orbit X/15 Games spawned me in late X/15 Games was dominated by sidearms-(the new item on the nerf watchlist of bungie btw- and the community is already getting their panties in a jumble) X/15 Games where I was killed mid super, and it didn't make sense. (You are not invincible in the super) X/15 Games where my bullets did not register (you want to DVR this) ------- I will personally take a PVE approach and record the same- what lagged what didnt? X/15 strikes had useful loot X/15 strikes had useless loot X/15 strikes had lag X/15 strikes dropped a key X/15 strikes- using 3oC had an exotic -------- I'm doing this first so we can get a consensus on stats. I will be using your stats in a second post in about a month (so plenty of time to record) the second post will be my feedback post- with the use of all participants stats- we will raise awareness to certain issues using solid evidence instead of salt (we are all guilty) and we will create a poll with stats to back it up. I will then shoot the project to Lost Sols for their podcast cause Bungie listens to him.[/spoiler] [b][u]REMEMBER, it is OPTIONAL TO HELP.[/u][/b] Hello feedback community. I am your local "nerf cryer roaster" here. I personally have not had the chance to play the new patch yet- however judging from the salt levels of this forum- it "Looks" bad. I want to start a project with whomever wants to join. Here is the only step to my project: ___________________________________________ 1) Record the following data- and by all means add more data to record if you can. [b][u]Connection[/u][/b]: X/ 15 Games Lagged (Remaining number is the amount of smooth games) X/15 Games put me back in orbit (Let's remember though, that could [b][u]VERY WELL BE YOUR FAULT[/u][/b] X/15 Games had ______ Red Bar warriors [b][u]Weapon Data[/u][/b] X/15 games- predominantly killed by sidearm X/15 games- predominantly killed by different weapons of all types [b][u]Class Data[/u][/b] X/15 games I'm killed mid super X/15 games I killed someone else mid super X/15 games where one ability was spammed or not. ___________________________________________ -/And you can personally come up with any other statistic for PVP. I just want to compare the numbers to my old project I had back in September. \- This is [b]FOR[/b] pvp matches. [b]My reasons:[/b] [spoiler]My reason for this is because I myself along with the whole community are guilty of many fallacies in our feedback. In order for our feedback to be heard in an attempt to save the game- we need facts and figures to back our claim, even links to forum posts as examples. I took it upon myself when I made the "Bye Destiny, You let a daily player down," post by posting my figures there, I was guilty of a rant- so this is my controlled way of doing this. At the time and up to now I was obviously disappointed with the state of the game post ROI. I love this game and company- [b]THEY MADE A STELLAR GAME, the CONSTANT CRYING IN THE COMMUNITY RUINED IT.[/b] [/spoiler] [b][u]Thank you for your time. Thank you for reading. Thanks for your participation in advance. [/u][/b] Edit 1: Regarding [b][u]"Class" [/u][/b] Killed mid super means- it didn't make sense how you got killed mid super and is most likely a server issue. [b]Because there are valid moments mid super you can be killed[/b] Edit 2: If [b][u]YOU ARE IN[/u][/b] Simply respond with "Sure!" And if you've been keeping track of other stats already, I'd love you to post. Edit 3: FROM IMMA DUMBAZZ [quote]U need to have a stat for what people are playing too. 3v3 or 6v6. Most saltyness comes from 3v3[/quote] [b][u]Yes guys, please include what mode you played as well. [/u][/b]f [b][u]thank you sir! [/u][/b] Edit 4: I love how i was notified that this post has 9 likes, but somehow theres only 2. I guess some people hate stats- no worry- as long as you guys partake- the project is a go. [spoiler]I can't believe stats are being downvoted. Shows what kind of community we got. [/spoiler] Edit 5: [b][u]Please record ridiculous or awesome moments, that will only help.[/u][/b] Edit 6: There are 4 parts to this project now [b]edit 7[/b] Thanks ZAnon for the suggestion! The second part of this project will be surveys! We will gather the stats first to make a case. Then a survey to see if others had related experiences. Thank you guardians! [b][u][i]RESULTS SO FAR[/i][/u][/b] From Pirate Patchy 2/22/2017 [spoiler][quote]https://youtu.be/pfaRLjaplok https://youtu.be/jm4WJ7odBQA https://youtu.be/20Zy-hzXDa8 Wasn't lagged out of any matches( 0/15 ). I was brought to orbit once in-que, there seemed to be an issue between myself and a friend( 1/15 ). 2 red bar warriors( 2/15 ), around 3 yellow bars. Sidearms were predominate in over half of matches( 8/15 ), if it wasn't them it was icebreaker or no land beyond( together they're 4/15, with nlb being pared with a sidearm ). There was a match where one was rocking well with a matador( 1/15 ), and of course there's myself with the vacancy( 13/15, I love fusion rifles). Was killed mid-super 3 times I think( 3/15, I either didn't use it or didnt die because its FoH ), killed people mid-super 6 times( 6/15 ). Can't really pin down an ability, all around being used more often though. 4 Clash, 4 Control, and 7 Rift matches. All ran with my titan using the striker subclass, mainly used auto and fusion rifles. Add to it if there's anything I missed.[/quote] [/spoiler] [b]from M0nk0fWar (no stats, but feedback is related[/b] [spoiler][quote]I don't have too accurate recordings, but a general idea of the topics. I mainly played 6v6 and Rumble for all of these. Connections were generally good; I don't really remember any lagging games. Weapons are super restricted. It is mainly either a hand cannon, pulse or NLB for primaries and a sidearm or Icebreaker for the special. I've been killed out of Hammers a bit (mainly because I suck), mostly from sidearm team shotting. Ability and super spam seem VERY heavy, appearing to be mostly from Nightstalkers. Hopefully this quick synopsis helps out for something.[/quote] -M0nk0fWar [/spoiler] [b][u]JStevensontown[/u][/b] (FYI, i want it formatted like this) [spoiler][quote]These are an accurate more or less. 1/15 strikes had useful loot 14/15 strikes had useless loot 0/15 strikes had lag 3-4/15 strikes dropped a key X/15 strikes- using 3oC had an exotic - haven't used 3oc in many months [b][u]Connection[/u][/b]: 1/ 15 Games Lagged (Remaining number is the amount of smooth games) - I find guardians lagging more than the game. 0 (as of recently)/15 Games put me back in orbit (Let's remember though, that could [b][u]VERY WELL BE YOUR FAULT[/u][/b] 4-5/15 Games had ______ Red Bar warriors [b][u]Weapon Data[/u][/b] 7 3v3 4 6v6/15 games- predominantly killed by sidearm 7 3v3 9 6v6/15 games- predominantly killed by different weapons of all types I play mostly 3v3 [b][u]Class Data[/u][/b] 4/15 games I'm killed mid super 4/15 games I killed someone else mid super X/15 games where one ability was spammed or not. - these are very random stats. It depends heavily on the players awareness, skill, & ability - guardians use abilities as much as needed.[/quote] [/spoiler]