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Edited by THEUNDEAD565: 2/1/2017 10:58:09 PM
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[quote]i get that he wants to do it his way, and not do a countdown but he's trashing EVERYONE, he's been defending his lack of a countdown for 20 minutes straight, and now his entire chat is toxic [/quote] And how does not having a countdown matter? This avoids the potential of stream sniping - and allows any and all people a generally fair chance at matching up against him. Doing a countdown gives people who are in chat the clear advantage. His entire chat is toxic on their own selfish whim, not because he told them to be toxic. [quote] he's the only streamer the entire event that hasn't done a countdown, and he KNOWS he is pissing everyone off, defending his actions, and making everything awful [/quote] Good on him for that. He conducted the bounty the way he wanted to. Bungie didn't say he needed to, that was a courtesy given by the other streamers in the past, which again have the chat and stream snipers a large advantage. [quote] it's not the worst that he's not doing a countdown, but he's treating everyone like trash, if a bungie employee was watching his stream right now, they would cut sponsorship, it's just awful, look for yourself you don't have to take my word for it [/quote] He didn't start treating people like trash until he specifically asked people to not ask for a count down, repeatedly mind you, and those fools couldn't accept they wouldn't have an edge at matching him. The absolute obsession for this stupid emblem is ridiculous. It doesn't even truly prove anything. It's just a fun, community thing which the community turned toxic. [quote] * * * EDIT * * * for those wondering what the countdown is, when bungie bounties stream, there is a delay if you try to team up with him (or against him) by watching his stream exclusively, it will never happen; because if you team up when you see him team up, in real life he's already fighting a match so they do a "countdown" via TEXT in the stream so everyone knows when to team up with the bungie bounty, today, Gothalion broke tradition and flat out refused to do so [/quote] This makes it fair to everybody - again - not just those who are attempting to match up against him via his stream. What you're complaining about is not having an edge over everybody else in the community simply because you were watching his stream. [quote] not only did he refuse, he called his fans "crybabies" "meanies" "bullies" "trolls" while also telling them to "get over it" "have fun" "shut up" "do something else" [/quote] So he called them exactly what they were? Boo hoo. I'm not even a fan of this jackass and I agree with the way he handled the situation. It's a community event in which you have the potential of being involved in. Bungie doesn't [i]have[/i] to do these types of things. It should be fun that you and others (myself included) have even gotten the chance to compete for the emblem against known players of the community. And yes, the community bitches because they didn't get their way. It's pathetic. [quote] this guy is getting publicly sponsored and free advertisement on the official bungie site with the official bungie brand, this event wasn't done out of the good will of his heart on his own time, it was a business contract [/quote] This may very well be true. But again and he even stated "Bungie came to me and asked me to do this. I was not told how to do it, so I can run it the way I feel." He ran it the way he felt he should, and didn't let a bunch of entitled children come in and dictate it. [quote] i don't care either way, i want the emblem, i'm maxed grimoire, and don't care who i earn it from, but today was a travesty, *Gothalion's actions cannot go unnoticed, it was a complete dud to participate today, he bitched on stream for over an hour, and continued to do so even after the event was over[/quote] You do care, or you would not have made this post. You care because you didn't have a clear edge over many other people to match up against him. The odd weren't stacked in your favor to get the emblem and it's burning you up on the inside. To that end, I suggest you relax and enjoy the game, don't take it so seriously, and to get over yourself. Yesterday was only a "travesty" because you made it to be one, instead of enjoying the community event. This says a lot about an individual. And I'm sure he bitched about it, because quite frankly, it's a disgrace that the community went up in arms once he said he would not be doing a countdown and continued to moan and complain because they didn't get their way (your post is one fine example too).
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  • Anyone can convey their opinions in a way that makes them sound logical and correct even with the most asinine argument such as yourself, people in chat are obviously the ones taking the extra efforts to obtain the emblem thus the very least this streamer could do is provide them a countdown to be ready, by not doing so he is just further proving he's an entitled prick that doesn't care about the fans.

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  • I'm glad you believe my argument is asinine, but you haven't proven why. The countdown is a courtesy, not a right. To bitch about it is truly asinine.

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  • So... how's his balls taste? Clearly you're all over them.

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  • Preach.

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  • The whole point of the bounty is to know when to match up against him.

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  • Have they not done bounties and not streamed at the same time. If these people weren't streamers there wouldn't be an issue. The emblems would still be given out regardless if people were streaming. I really don't see how this is such a big deal. With thousands of people queuing up at the same time how are your odds made better? Makes zero sense

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  • The people who want to purposefully que with him to win and get the emblem can't because they can't see the countdown. The fandoms who play him will most likely lose and the ones that win will most likely not even know what they did.

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  • [quote]The whole point of the bounty is to know when to match up against him.[/quote]

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  • Edited by Cowboybebop: 2/1/2017 11:41:53 PM
    Although I agree with your counterpoint, if you didn't alreadyhave the emblem, your opinion probably would've been different :p.

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  • No. I actually don't think it would. I obtained my emblem through the same way: without a countdown in chat back in House of Wolves. We stream sniped, but we had the knowledge of there being a 20 second delay, so we didn't need a countdown (which they didn't provide regardless).

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  • I worded that wrong, I believe it was 2 in the morning when I wrote that, lol. Looking at this for a second time, it just looked as if tyou probably felt entitled to add to this conversation because of your experience.

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  • Not entirely. Indeed I went through without a countdown, but that's not a main sticking point of my argument. My main problem is it was a community event which many people (including him) turned toxic, like many other things in this game.

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  • You supported your point, and then supported calebs contrasting point. I think your conviction is either waning or never started strong. Just pointing out the poor logic, its still up to you if you use this knowledge in the future.

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  • By saying I didn't need a countdown, which wasn't provided regardless when I went for the bounty? He said if I didn't have the emblem, I would feel differently. I would not, reared less of my emblem status.

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  • Again pointing out the poor logic, i don't actually care about what you opinion is about.

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  • The logic was continuous. I believe Gothalion was right in not doing a countdown even if there were ones done in the past. You have failed to point out specifically where I did, and only [i]said[/i] I have "poor logic", so I'll just assume you're a troll and move on.

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  • Edited by Forgotten: 2/2/2017 6:29:50 AM
    Because you argued both for and against your opinion. Nice paragraph teaching me nothing and trying to bait. You must have poor judgment too, or at least you did when you wrote back twice. I seriously don't understand why people are so avid to ask questions and then so bitchy when they hear the answer, you are welcome ahead of time.

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  • Edited by J_v_K: 2/1/2017 11:11:25 PM
    This is actually the first decent response in this thread so far. You have played Devil's advocate and you have played it well by responding to the original poster with a valid counter-argument that makes more sense than his did. Well said. [b]JvK B)[/b]

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  • Oh rekt him good lol

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  • Well said

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  • Perfect response to a whiny post.

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