Honestly, before I quit the game and High RoF pulse rifles like Grasp of Malok were ruling crucibabies, I went and ground for an Oversoul Edict. It was a fully automatic version of the Grasp. Incredibly underrated weapon IMO. However, I don't think people grind for raid weapons for PVP purposes. They want a gun that is going to reduce their grind in PVE primarily (or at least I know I do and most of my group does). People who raid 3x a week or more typically aren't the same kind of people who play PVP nonstop for 3-4 hours a day.