A lot of people hate that raid because it required team work and for people to learn actual mechanics. Even though those mechanics are as simple as knowing your left and right and the ability to count to three. Also the loot is bad. The LMG was very good. And the sniper is a good pvp sniper. However apart from that the loot was largely underwhelming. With no great primary weapons to speak of. If you got firefly on the pulse rifle, it was ok. However it was still worse than the vendor hung jury. I did really enjoy my time with kings fall. However it was the only light level relevant raid for an entire year.. which means it also got over played. It was also one of the best ways to obtain infusion fuel.