I really liked it. It was the longest one I think and that was a good or bad thing. With a good group it was fun and challenging. With a bad group it was a nightmare. But that was the first raid where like the whole group needed to know their jobs. It was a little harder to just carry someone or just tell them, "stand over here and watch what we do." I used to always say that Totems was the place where you figured out what kind of raid team you had. There was no boss, no dps, basically just mechanics and communication. And everyone had to know the rotation and how not to screw the aura transfer up. If you had problems here, the rest of your raid was not gonna be fun. The loot? Meh. Infusion fuel. Technically the raid weapons were not bad. By today's standards they have pretty good perks. I like the machine gun actually, especially with cocoon where you didn't have to worry about reload. But you gotta look at where this raid fell in the timeline. Before King's Fall the last raid we had was Crota's End. With these year one raids you had elemental primaries, plus legendaries like Fatebringer and Black Hammer. You had Vision of Confluence, you had Hunger of Crota, Fang of Ir Yut, and so on. I remember the names of these weapons because they were head and shoulders above your average legendary. It's why people want elemental primaries back and such. So King's Fall gets here, and the raid weapons feel so dull in comparison. Woohoo. Cocoon. Yay. Full auto. None of them stuck out in a big way like Black Hammer did with its White Nail perk. And as far as the looks? Sure they had that unique King's Fall look with cool sights, but honestly a lot of them look the same. I can't tell the Scout rifle apart from the sniper rifle until I am up with it. As time went on, I got used to the weapons and realized their perks weren't too bad as legendaries go. But nothing like the raid legendaries we were used to. The older raids had weapons that people knew and sought after, grinded for. Had their own legend. Like an exotic would. Ask anybody about Fatebringer or Black Hammer, or heaven forbid the combination of the two. Plus, eh. KF weapons look like they were stuck together with Bubble Gum.