Borderlands 1: The main hate borderlands 1 gets is due to its mini map which isn't a mini map at all but a scrolling compass. If people learned to use it and opened their in menu maps, than the game would not face the criticism it does. The game is best played with two people because the scrolling compass becomes the biggest problem when driving. This is solved by player two sitting in the menu looking at the map telling the driver where to go. Which can and has lead to some hilarious deaths and bickering. Borderlands 1 has the best characters! All 4 characters are extremely powerful in end game and feel so unique and fun to play. The loot system is also different. Drop rates on legendary items are not limited to one boss for a certain weapon they can be obtained from anything (excluding dlc weapons). This allows you to kill what ever you want as well as being able to play on any character you want which cannot be said for bl2 on op8. As well as the dlc all being pretty good. Borderlands 2: amazing game as well. I have about 37 days of time played in game across all characters thanks to the abysmal drop rates on skins. The first three dlcs were ok but tiny Tina's dlc was a master piece. The story is ok in this game but what really makes it stand out is end game. The grind, mobbing, and boss fights are fun in end game a lot of fun. When the level cap was originally 50 the game was amazing every character was strong and really fun to play, but as level cap rose majority of the classes fell off. That's what hurt this game. TPS: short story but the characters are really fun to level and are all really powerful end game and leveling. The loot system is ok the drop rates on most legendary weapons is good. This games major issue is its non existent end game. Yes there are some bosses you can re fight but a good amount of them will not drop their skin or head unless you are doing their quest, so you have one shot to get it unless you restart your game on console. The other bad thing about the game is there is not a single end game mobbing area that is fun. Enemy's are to spread out it sucks. All in all this is an amazing series worth picking up and falling in love with for yourself. It is also a good series to try and get your significant other to play with you if they are remotely interested in playing video games with you.