I use all 3 classes. That said, when it's time for any pvp activity Hunter is my go to option. Your post makes me want to puke. I'm sorry that hunter is no longer the [b]highest rated[/b] subclass for pvp, but that doesn't mean it sucks. Not sure what your issue is with the melee. My melee rate goes like this. Warlock. Hunter. Titan. Hunter takes the number 2 spot solely for the night stalker melee mods. That aside however, hunter and titan would have tied. ( blink strike needs better abilities as well as gun slinger. ) Warlock melee mods are trash. Only beneficial in pve (storm caller melee aside) The only reason warlock takes number one is because of range and ease of use (tracking) Titan melee mods, trash. Again, only beneficial in pve. Even then only slightly. Also, not sure what your issue is with the "weapons ready faster", BD perk. To me it works. I can definitely tell a difference. Warlocks tracking needs to be toned down if it's going to keep the range AND be able to lunge. Every sticky Nade should be the same. You have a point there. Titan movement speed should be turned down a notch due to skating. So point there. No need in talking about hunters agility when everyone wants to run armor and recovery and sacrifice agility anyway. So, you hunter mains need to stop with that argument. You can't have armor recovery AND agility. Only two. It's no one's fault you don't run an agility build. You should not be complaining about blade dancer when sun singer is completely useless in pvp. Flame shield was the only really beneficial melee mod, and now the warlock can't even survive a melee shotty combo. I understand that you main Hunter, so biased post is biased. But consider all classes before spewing nonsense. Especially when there's other subs that could use some work. ( gun slinger / sun singer ) With this said. [b]every class has a sub that needs a touch up.[/b] Supers, melee mods, and Nades. Blade dancer as a whole however, is not the weakest sub.