Today I want to talk about the picture above, some certain, quotes, and ultimately the reason why I think we should keep our eyes on the black garden. Let's get started.
As you all know, the black garden house a relic of darkness know as the Black heart. The average person would just kill the heart and think that the garden is now done for, but we're not the average player. If you look at the image above, you will not find the garden's heart at the center. The heart is that that big shadow off to the right. One must wonder, why is the heart not at the center?
Now, let's break out the cards.
Sol Progeny:[quote]We must assume the abomination was part of something greater[/quote][quote]Let us be wary. There may be other abominations, and other vessels.[/quote]Ruin Wings:[quote]In the Garden grows a tree of silver wings. The leaves are ruin, the bark disaster. Of the seeds we do not speak.[/quote]Legend: The Black Garden:[quote]But I looked behind me, down the long slope where the blossoms tumbled in the warm wind and the great trees wept sap like blood or wine, and I felt doubt.[/quote]With just this alone, It's safe to assume there's more.
Continuing on. Here's a picture of [url=https://s3.amazonaws.com/destiny-www/assets/article/2016/01/05/destiny%20crucible%20map%20pantheon%20the%20dark%20below_feature.jpg]Pantheon.[/url]
So We know there's more in the garden. But how much more? Sadly, there's no way to confirm at this moment, BUT, we can do a simple "stand out" count. Assuming those two pillars of light and the mountain in the center house the "other artifacts", we can assume there's at least three more. They may be the "other abominations and vessels" Zavala was talking about.
What I find really interesting however, is the mountain in the middle. Most of the garden is really easy to see, But that mountain (if you look closely enough) somewhat looks like it's hollow. Here's an example of what I mean from [url=http://assets1.ignimgs.com/thumbs/neon/2016/06/14/1193a5d4b48aeeefb758c306e38f9146-1465887623/neon_0001_large.jpg]The Last Gaurdian[/url]. There's a valley inside that mountain where there's loads of ancient structures and whatnot. (Those of you who've play The Last Guardian know what I'm talking about) I think the same type of thing may be in black garden.
On that note, I personally think that the tree of ruin is inside that mountain. Why? Considering that we can see roughly 87%-90% of the garden and not a single tree in sight (Or thing that resembles a tree) I'm left to assume it's hidden. The only places we can't see are inside and behind the mountain. But enough about locations shrouded in mystery, the burning question in the back of my head is WHAT OTHER RELICS ARE THERE!?
I could make a hundred guesses, but I'll leave that to you. Tell me what you think is in those shrouded locations. Be it a mind, machine, weapon, or defense. Let's hear it.
[b]TL;DR:[/b]
There's three shiny points in the garden and more things to be found there.
[quote]Back to master thread:
[url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/205238605[/url][/quote]Cheers.
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Edited by KllerJ: 2/5/2017 10:44:46 PMYou know all those socks that get lost in the dryer? That's where they go.
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My Uncle used to be able to throw a football over that mountain.
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There's also a hollow mountain in The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker
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Bump for actual informative lore.
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With this in mind, it's said in the tenebrous tunnels mission that the vanguard never knew that the black garden could be accessed via freehold station. I get that this probably doesn't correlate but if the crucible Mao pantheon has been around for so long how did the vanguard not know how to get to the black garden? I highly doubt guardians had to fly to Mars and go through that big ass portal and walk to pantheon from there. However this isn't out of the question seeing that for the undying mind strike we land where the heart was to start the strike, as well as starting in the garden for the final step of the NTTE quest line
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Edited by A Rising Wind: 12/23/2016 2:41:24 AMPart of me wonders if the black garden mountain is where the original black heart was supposed to be in the open space concept, before they restricted the usable map size. Or if it was meant for a much larger story in the garden we've not seen There is still so much of the black garden that is a mystery. I'd love to know more about the ruin tree, pujaris dream, etc. I used to think that the vex were growing the organic part of themselves/their original species in the ground in the garden and the flowers marked where each was grown. As if they were a species that once were nearly destroyed and saved some biological element of their species in the black garden, and certain members had their organic parts put in a machine body (vex, the gardeners in pujaris Dream) to tend and care for the biological remains of their species buried in the garden, in hopes that one day their original species could be restored. I suppose this could still be possible but nothing in grimoire about the vex added since vanilla supports this.
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Hey look! A lore post!
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This, this what this section was made for
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So there is not a tree in the garden. Correct. But where there IS a tree is in the secret path in the vault of glass on kabrs path
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:3 hey
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I have an idea that the black garden is actually more of a city. We only interact with the vex in their mechanical builder forms, but their true nature is microscopic organisms in the white liquid. What if the black garden allows the vex to leave their mechanical platforms and flow through the water as means of worship and meditation, which is main directive of the Sol Divisive and not the usual building. Most of the vex bodies we find are inert and flowers speak to a guardian in the grim. What if it's because the vex are coursing through the water and flora in their natural state? The whole of the garden alive and communicating in ways we could barely imagine.
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A well know fact: Destiny has no story. What it does have/had is lot of expectations....
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"See that mountain out in the distance? You can go there..." RIP early Destiny expectations.
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Dude I really like these lore post. With they just publish some damn books already. Halo had some great fiction.
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It might be the location of the final raid where we have to fight the Traveler.
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Fun story: When I first crested that hill that gives you this view, I thought those flowers were thousands of Vex soldiers far down below, and I'm pretty sure I gasped haha. Now it's hard to see anything but flowers, but I remember feeling that awe. Hope they have a shot like that in the new game.
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This is really interesting...maybe its worth investigating Pantheon and the Floating Gardens, plus all those missions to figure out how or if they fit geographically, get better images, etc. I have no doubt we've not heard the last of the Vex. They're just too invasive, relentless...
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I assume that that big hollow mountain as you put it, is not just where that "tree of Ruin" is located but that there's an entrance to an even greater Vex Axis Mind located beneath the mountain. Like maybe Atheon's predecessor or successor, could be both even given the nature of the Garden itself. And maybe; just maybe, that Axis Mind is still not complete. It would explain why the Vex wanted to reseal the Garden, to keep us out in order to prepare. That's what I think.
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No worries this story line was most likely completely abandoned and we will never hear again of the Black Garden in the sequels. T hough after learning what we did from Oryx and the Books of Sorrow, in the context of Destiny 1, I figure the Black Garden and the Heart are just the Vex's attempt of making a Throne World and an Oversoul respectively.
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Bump for later!
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Colt 45 and two Zig Zags....
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It probably houses the Bungie team in virtual form watching us all hoping we don't notice it's the end of the game already.
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I agree! Matador 64 IS a sniper rifle.....
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You know, I liked that place a lot better when it was dead.
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Edited by RNGesus: 12/21/2016 3:15:26 PMSo what youre saying is nerf fusion rifles