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Edited by Big Cash Moneys:
12/19/2016 6:16:03 AM
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Why was SW: The Force Awakens so bad when Rogue One was so good?
[b]Main Statement[/b]
Rogue one had it all, easter eggs, character development, nostalgia, and amazing choreography.
[b]Hatred for The Force Awakens[/b]
Rogue One had a plethora of multi-cultural actors and they didn't seem -blam!-ing forced. I think they made Rogue One's cast so diverse just to prove how bad the Force Awakens was in terms of casting. I know she already has a huge following but I hated the Rei character, but I loved Jyn. The character Jyn had an easy to relate to development and back-story her life had a clear start and ending. Rei had a comical at best robotic sphere partner in salvaging space junk and was unnecessarily adept with wielding the force and had about no backstory or development. It is impossible that she would be able to pull off that "mind meld" (Star Trek). How naturally strong one is with the force affects the power of their abilities, the abilities have to be -blam!-ing learned and she didn't learn it. I would talk about how much I hated Finn's character but I prefer not to be labeled racist. The crew of the Rogue One ship was more memorable than the entirety of The Force Awakens. To veer further off topic I hate Kylo Ren, I don't like the character or the actor at all, he's just a little rage baby and the only scrap of justification is the focus of his jerk sessions, Darth Vader and the fact he's more of a vessel for the dark side and not a wielder. Also they mad the Death Star but it's a planet this time… [i]very[/i] creative guys. I have a philosophy, if a series is going to kill of a cemented generally liked character it better be in a good way and be contained in an exceptionally good movie or episode. Han Solo died in a laughable way in an awful movie (in short I hereby decanonize TFA). I really liked that one pilot who fake died at the beginning but he too lacked structure. Really, they put Luke Skywalker in the movie for 30 seconds total screen time. Really. I could go on like this for hours but it is time to move on. Final statement TFA had way too many shitty quips.
[b]Love for Rogue One[/b]
Where do I start? (Apologies to die-hard fans I don't remember almost all of the names.) Ah I know the tasteful pun by one of my favorite movie icons "Don't choke on your own ambitions [admiral]." Then there's the fact that the movie was based around one line in Return of the Jedi "Many bothons died to bring you this information." (I may be wrong about that.) Jyn was developed very well, hispanic captain guy was built up well while remaining partially mysterious, K2 was just plain awesome, blind guy had great choreography and his character was made apparent while clouding his past, big gun guy was ur classic tanky no -blam!-s given character, and I need not say more about character traits, my point has been made. Oh yeah there was a reference to mother -blam!-ing Star Wars Rebels about Hera and the Ghost, oh my cream. Also it led perfectly into ANH. Darth Vader ripped some butt holes in an obscenely bad ass scene. The Hammerhead. (It was such an epic scene with the destroyers I need say no more). The demonstration and development of the iconic Death Star. Filling the gaps between EP:3+4.
And I'm tired so I'm going to sleep now, I may add more.
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Edit: Added the previous edit because I forgot to put the edit annotation.
Edit: Changed [it] in P1 to Rogue One for clarification, also added another Rogue One in the following sentence for further clarification.
Edit: Fixed grammatical error, "Rogue One the cast" was changed to "Rogue One's cast."
Edit: Attempted to fix grammatical error, realized target error was indeed not an error.
Edit: Fixed factual error, changed A New Hope to Return of The Jedi
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I will say I hate Cassion (I think that's his name) more than Jar-jar. [spoiler]I said it.[/spoiler]
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[quote]"Many bothons died to bring you this information."[/quote] Quick timeline: Episode 3, Rouge One, Episode 4, Episode 5, [Bothons die here] (the bothons died to get the 2nd death star's plans,this was the first) Episode 6.
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2 RepliesWhere was the reference to Star Wars Rebels? I missed that...
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I enjoyed both movies. While I still like TFA, I acknowledge its flaws, but I still enjoy it to this day.
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5 RepliesCould I find the full movie of rogue one anywhere online? If someone could link it to me it would be great.
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Atleast TFA characters were more developed. And Rey being a Mary Sue for beating Kylo Ren. With that thinking, Luke is a Gary Stew for blowing up the death star with no targeting.
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18 RepliesEvery star wars movie is good. They all might not be [u]perfect[/u] , but none of them qualify as a [b]bad[/b] movie. True star wars fans understand this, but fakers pretend to be movie critics.
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Edited by Viss Pall: 12/21/2016 8:51:06 PMBecause people don't like reskins when they are worse. TFA added Death Star 3 but bigger, and a shotgun... Finn sees his friend killed and is like "My friend died. Lets help the guy that killed him escape" Rey is PERFECT. She is a perfect pilot, beats Kilo, knows jedi tricks even if she knew the force is real just for a few hours, and Kilo in the beggining is like: "Capture that guy! Kill the other that may be the only answer to what we want!" Rey doesnt even know what a jedi mind trick is and makes it twice. The nonsense is what we dont like. Also Rey preaty much only stabs with the lightsaber... MY OPINION
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6 RepliesI don't know why people hate FW. Is it a masterpiece? No it's not but it's a solid 6-6.5/10. JJ played it safe and used the same formula but with likable characters.
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2 RepliesYou so called 'true' Star Wars fans are some of the most annoying people on the Internet. Episode 7 wasn't bad, but it wasn't amazing either. It was just good. And Rogue One was definitely better but what's wrong with liking both films?
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Trick question, they are both good.
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1 ReplyI quite liked force awakens 8/10 . I think your standards are too high. It was not the best Star Wars film but it did a good job to introduce the new trilogy
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4 RepliesThis is objectively subjective.
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1 ReplyBut Force Awakens was good. . . [spoiler]Better a reskin of a formula that works than the prequel JarJar shite.[/spoiler]
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Edited by Seraph: 12/19/2016 9:27:38 PMFor what it's worth I loved "The Force Awakens", the first time I saw it I thought it was brilliant and while it's ( many ) flaws do become very obvious the more you watch it I still think it was a good ( albeit derivative and un-imaginative ) Star Wars movie. It's easy to forget just how bad Episodes 1 and 2 were ( I tried watching The Phantom Menace last night on blu ray and I had to shut it off after 30 minutes because it was so bad ) and just how wary many Star Wars fans were of a new Star Wars movie ( both with and without George Lucas at the helm ). Since The Force Awakens was the 1st Star Wars after Episode 3 I think Disney and Lucasarts made a very deliberate decision to make Episode 7 as safe and comforting as possible, which is what I wanted last Christmas. My main issue with The Force Awakens are the minor ( and major ) plot holes that popped up due to all the last minute decision making and script re-writes ( like Poe Damon who was originally supposed to die or Rey suddenly knowing things about the Force that she shouldn't ). I also felt like the chemistry between Daisy Ridley and John Bodega isn't all that great. JJ is great idea man with a very strong visual style but I often feel he isn't very good at following up on his ideas and fleshing them out. He also loves winking to the audience too much, he's more concerned with fan service and secrets than quality. His Star Wars ( and Star Trek ) work is too focused on re-living the past instead of blazing a trail for the future. As for Rogue One, needless to say I'm super impressed with it. I need to watch it several times to see if it holds up but so far it's tied with Empire as being my favourite Star Wars movie. Watching it in the cinema really solidified in my mind just how low a bar JJ Abrams and Disney set with The Force Awakens and just how little they tried to make something different. Leaving the cinema after watching Rogue One was the first time I ever felt that The Force Awakens was an awful movie ( although I've since forgiven it for its failings ).
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Because JJ was too much of a fan to be trusted with this.
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7 RepliesDon't understand why everything has to be a competition. I like The Force Awakens. I like Rouge One. I like the original trilogy. I like the prequel trilogy. I like Star Wars.
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I enjoyed [i]The Force Awakens.[/i] I'm sure I'll enjoy [i]Rogue One.[/i] It's not a competition. Both films are [i]allowed to be good.[/i]
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5 RepliesEdited by USA XJ: 12/19/2016 4:23:30 PMRey got too powerful and the story was Episode 4 all over again. Besides that, I really liked The Force Awakens. Haven't seen and don't plan on seeing Rogue One though.
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Imo a force awakens was really good
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10 RepliesI know I'm in the minority here. I hated Rogue One. And I've seen them all in the theater. Yes I'm not young. [spoiler] Everyone dying ruined it for me. [/spoiler]
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I hope Star Wars isn't the only thing that awakens ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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