Disclaimer- this is not an attention seeking post. I post this in hopes that my feedback gets seen and is considered by Bungie, because my opinions are shared. There are people leaving this game. Here are my reasons. I already know I have a 0.0101010101 chance of this post being considered, but it's for the record.
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This is [b]FEEDBACK[/b] for you People that don't know what it is here is the definition:
Feedback- helpful information or criticism that is given to someone to say what can be done to improve a performance, product, etc.
Here's the reasons why I switched from Destiny to Battlefield 1. I've never been lagging or DDOSing cause of the dedicated servers. Also, with smooth gameplay and true gun skill- it's a game with a skill gap. Btw, they don't nerf anything. To add to this, snipers can be spotted and taken out- yet when a skilled sniper comes along, all credits due. Shotguns in battlefield would make Destiny players cry nerf all the time- oh no, a shotgun that fires at its true range. To add to this, the graphics are amazing- maps are huge for multiple styles of play. And oh -- 38 vs 38! A true war! Destiny lost me after their recent update. They made sure 390-400 will be even more struggle as if there wasn't one already. They capped factions- making patrols, bounties, and strikes useless. Also, the micro transactions are ridiculous. I'm done with Destiny- I'm not getting Destiny 2 considering they will break their promise that "Your guardian will always be with you- 10 year plan" has been scrapped to feed the streamers and PC crowd- ignoring their dedicated players. They want to throw away our 3 years of gaming away. Bungie with Activision has proven money is more important than a quality game. Still no dedicated servers, stupid graphics, and terrible gameplay. To add to this- people get banned so easily for name calling and public shaming of cheaters- BUT OH the cheaters and elitist streamers who love to belittle others don't get any warning. They get to continue, and BUNGIE LISTENS TO THEM because they give free publicity. How cheap. They only listen to streamers!
But you can get 400 drops!
But where can I get 400 drops outside the raid and doing 5 hours of strikes? Oh and trials bounties drop 390 gear. It's all capped. I believe since they did that, they should also cap crucible drops (as crucible isn't end game except Trials). There's no legit reason to cap vanguard and crucible rep and faction drops at 390. Also the exotics I've farmed recently are decrypting at my light or below, making that stupid -blam!- to grind. Archons forge helped, but only with the ghost and artifact. The ARMOR and weapon drops only go up to 385. I already have good rolls on rep guns I like- so seriously no reason to rank up anything anymore for me- unless they get rid of the cap. Don't get me started with "use LFG to find a raid group" because 1) When I find a group and I don't have the hard mode emblem, I'm kicked. 2) When I make a group, and it doesn't go the way they wanted it (30 minutes or less lol) they quit mid raid and it starts a chain of quitting. So LFG is out of the question for me. Trials? I love it, I just don't wanna sweat like yah forever on the weekend. Destiny ripped 3/4ths of the methods to level up and are forcing us to pay streamers for flawless, pay streamers for DDOS
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/216956815/0/0 -Credits to UltraNoah
(it's a known issue), pay sherpas to help with the raid. Literally no reason to keep a solo player. To add to this, they nerf everything that becomes useful.
Btw, my skeleton key drop rate for 1 week now is 1/30 strikes. Exotic drop rate for 1 week now is 1/25 3oC. Not worth my time anymore cause Bungivision wants money and doesn't want us to "make our own destiny."
Edit 1:
Wow trending. I'm happy I made points we can agree on! Thanks for the support from 90% of you, to the 10% that wants to take a stab at me- do your best. I get really into logical arguments with you. I like to dissect your immaturity word for word.
Edit 2:
To the people who think that this is still an attention seeking post- well every post in the FEEDBACK forum must be... your logic is flawed. I'm stating my last criticisms before I go.
Edit 3
In regards to paying for DDOS
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5a6420/there_are_people_offering_paid_ddos_trials/?client=safari
In regards to the massive complaints about the DDOS and connection issues
https://www.google.com/amp/stevivor.com/2016/10/destinys-trials-osiris-guardians-take-reddit-complain-ddos-spamming-shady-tactics/amp/?client=safari
In regards to how destiny doesn't care if people leave- think again
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/02/03/report-bungie-asking-players-why-they-stopped-playing-in-destiny-survey/
https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/1/24/10819242/destiny-should-i-stop-playing?client=safari
In regards to not getting my money's worth:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/09/21/something-just-feels-off-with-destiny-rise-of-iron/#488ad91e236d
Edit (Courtesy of More Cowbell) I should've taken your advice!
[quote]Why I didn't purchase RoI and am quitting Destiny soon -
My account has 2,000+ hours played, so I have enough experience to offer the opinions below
- I’m a pve first player. Destiny’s focus is obviously on pvp. RoI didn’t offer enough new pve content
- The sandbox team at Bungie hasn’t figured out how to balance weapons after two+ years
- Instead of making gradual adjustments and assessing the results, whenever a weapon is overused, it is nerfed to the point of uselessness
- The pvp nerfs are pushed without regard to their effect on pve
- Crucible is broken and mostly a miserably frustrating experience due to the matchmaking system, lag, red bar warriors, nerfs, etc.
- The rng loot system hooked me, but eventually pushed me away from the game
- Rng is weighted per player account. Not all accounts are weighted the same
- The loot drops are stuck in cycles on individual player accounts
- Smart loot either doesn’t work or doesn’t exist
- Let’s be honest, video games are a waste of time. That said, you don’t want to feel like you are wasting your time while playing. The loot system creates this feeling in game
- Microtransactions that are subject to rng. Holiday events are pathetic cash grabs
- Last, but not least, the developers allowed an entire year pass without fixing the bugged vanguard, crucible and faction package drops. This is inexcusable. The developers either couldn’t figure out the problem or didn’t care to fix it. I don’t want to grind for drops in year three that may not be possible on my account.[/quote]
[b][u]NEW FOR D2[/u][/b]
Wow this post became relevant again. I have played daily for my break so far.... After the honeymoon phase I am already bored and pissed that Bungie will not listen to their community.
Looks Like this guy will go to Anthem. And when I do, I shall delete my characters and uninstall. Thanks bungo.
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News Flash This game was not created for your standards. Go find another way to complain about your time wasted.
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I agree and it will be funny to see Destiny 2 fail.
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Edited by U4236034: 11/5/2016 10:59:39 AMNo one cares you attention whore
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I play a ton of other games nowadays, however I still play Destiny (very) casually, I couldn't care less about getting to 390, it's too much work. Have you tried Neverwinter and Warframe? Both are very good, and they're free to play. I'd recommend them. As far as Battlefield goes you're spot on, people there know their stuff. I play a support myself, the Lewis gun is an outstanding weapon!
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So the OP got banned for this post?? Somebody find a ninja and ask them what is going on
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"Is a PvE focused player" Goes and plays Battlefield.
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TL:DR: I don't like this game, I'm going to play another.
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[quote]Disclaimer- this is not an attention seeking post. I post this in hopes that my feedback gets seen and is considered by Bungie, because my opinions are shared. There are people leaving this game. Here are my reasons. I already know I have a 0.0101010101 chance of this post being considered, but it's for the record. End Disclaimer - This is [b]FEEDBACK[/b] for you People that don't know what it is here is the definition: Feedback- helpful information or criticism that is given to someone to say what can be done to improve a performance, product, etc. Here's the reasons why I switched from Destiny to Battlefield 1. I've never been lagging or DDOSing cause of the dedicated servers. Also, with smooth gameplay and true gun skill- it's a game with a skill gap. Btw, they don't nerf anything. To add to this, snipers can be spotted and taken out- yet when a skilled sniper comes along, all credits due. Shotguns in battlefield would make Destiny players cry nerf all the time- oh no, a shotgun that fires at its true range. To add to this, the graphics are amazing- maps are huge for multiple styles of play. And oh -- 38 vs 38! A true war! Destiny lost me after their recent update. They made sure 390-400 will be even more struggle as if there wasn't one already. They capped factions- making patrols, bounties, and strikes useless. Also, the micro transactions are ridiculous. I'm done with Destiny- I'm not getting Destiny 2 considering they will break their promise that "Your guardian will always be with you- 10 year plan" has been scrapped to feed the streamers and PC crowd- ignoring their dedicated players. They want to throw away our 3 years of gaming away. Bungie with Activision has proven money is more important than a quality game. Still no dedicated servers, stupid graphics, and terrible gameplay. To add to this- people get banned so easily for name calling and public shaming of cheaters- BUT OH the cheaters and elitists who love to belittle others don't get any warning. They get to continue, and BUNGIE LISTENS TO THEM because they give free publicity. How cheap. But you can get 400 drops! But where can I get 400 drops outside the raid and doing 5 hours of strikes? Oh and trials bounties drop 390 gear. It's all capped. I believe since they did that, they should also cap crucible drops (as crucible isn't end game except Trials). There's no legit reason to cap vanguard and crucible rep and faction drops at 390. Also the exotics I've farmed recently are decrypting at my light or below, making that stupid retarded to grind. Archons forge helped, but only with the ghost and artifact. The ARMOR and weapon drops only go up to 385. I already have good rolls on rep guns I like- so seriously no reason to rank up anything anymore for me- unless they get rid of the cap. Don't get me started with "use LFG to find a raid group" because 1) When I find a group and I don't have the hard mode emblem, I'm kicked. 2) When I make a group, and it doesn't go the way they wanted it (30 minutes or less lol) they quit mid raid and it starts a chain of quitting. So LFG is out of the question for me. Trials? I love it, I just don't wanna sweat like yah forever on the weekend. Destiny ripped 3/4ths of the methods to level up and are forcing us to pay streamers for flawless, pay streamers for DDOS https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/216956815/0/0 -Credits to UltraNoah (it's a known issue), pay sherpas to help with the raid. Literally no reason to keep a solo player. To add to this, they nerf everything that becomes useful. Btw, my skeleton key drop rate for 1 week now is 1/30 strikes. Exotic drop rate for 1 week now is 1/25 3oC. Not worth my time anymore cause Bungivision wants money and doesn't want us to "make our own destiny." Edit 1: Wow trending. I'm happy I made points we can agree on! Thanks for the support from 90% of you, to the 10% that wants to take a stab at me- do your best. I get really into logical arguments with you. I like to dissect your immaturity word for word. Edit 2: To the people who think that this is still an attention seeking post- well every post in the FEEDBACK forum must be... your logic is flawed. I'm stating my last criticisms before I go. Edit 3 In regards to paying for DDOS https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5a6420/there_are_people_offering_paid_ddos_trials/?client=safari In regards to the massive complaints about the DDOS and connection issues https://www.google.com/amp/stevivor.com/2016/10/destinys-trials-osiris-guardians-take-reddit-complain-ddos-spamming-shady-tactics/amp/?client=safari In regards to how destiny doesn't care if people leave- think again http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/02/03/report-bungie-asking-players-why-they-stopped-playing-in-destiny-survey/ https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2016/1/24/10819242/destiny-should-i-stop-playing?client=safari In regards to not getting my money's worth: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/09/21/something-just-feels-off-with-destiny-rise-of-iron/#488ad91e236d Edit (Courtesy of More Cowbell) I should've taken your advice! [quote]Why I didn't purchase RoI and am quitting Destiny soon - My account has 2,000+ hours played, so I have enough experience to offer the opinions below - I’m a pve first player. Destiny’s focus is obviously on pvp. RoI didn’t offer enough new pve content - The sandbox team at Bungie hasn’t figured out how to balance weapons after two+ years - Instead of making gradual adjustments and assessing the results, whenever a weapon is overused, it is nerfed to the point of uselessness - The pvp nerfs are pushed without regard to their effect on pve - Crucible is broken and mostly a miserably frustrating experience due to the matchmaking system, lag, red bar warriors, nerfs, etc. - The rng loot system hooked me, but eventually pushed me away from the game - Rng is weighted per player account. Not all accounts are weighted the same - The loot drops are stuck in cycles on individual player accounts - Smart loot either doesn’t work or doesn’t exist - Let’s be honest, video games are a waste of time. That said, you don’t want to feel like you are wasting your time while playing. The loot system creates this feeling in game - Microtransactions that are subject to rng. Holiday events are pathetic cash grabs - Last, but not least, the developers allowed an entire year pass without fixing the bugged vanguard, crucible and faction package drops. This is inexcusable. The developers either couldn’t figure out the problem or didn’t care to fix it. I don’t want to grind for drops in year three that may not be possible on my account.[/quote][/quote] There so many total dicks on there too, they won't raid with u if you're not 400 then you're expected to know exactly how to do everything tire first time even when watching videos doing really get the jist of everything.
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Right on. Well said
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I've started Battlefield 1 this weekend, and man I feel i've wasted money and effort time on Destiny. Bye Bye Destiny.
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Man I feel you bro, I have stopped playing for many reasons. It's sad when I am thinking of going back to the trainwreck that was The Division but after reading all of patch 1.4 maybe it's time to reactivate my agent. Now within the link above is a link to another article about the current state of micros in FotL. For quick reference I have it already plucked here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/10/27/is-destinys-festival-of-the-lost-event-actually-greedier-than-last-years/#5159ccdd6246 Now this pulls an inception and goes even deeper into the topic of micros. A link to a reddit post in the previous link shows a trend of the aggressiveness of Eververse implemented by Bungie. Facts don't lie it's worse off than even I thought. Blame whoever you want Bungie, Activision, it doesn't matter. In the end Bungie put it in the game now we have to deal with it. Here is trend: https://m.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/59ikth/timeline_of_microtransactions_a_summary_of_the/?compact=true Say what you want about The Division, but reading what all they changed it sounds very intresting. Unlike the very first link a full list of changes are here: http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.com/game/en-us/news/152-271342-16/update-14-patch-notes. Like I said maybe I can reactivate my agent. I need something to do now that my guardian is down right?
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I don't think Bungie cares at all. Just quit if you want to quit dude.
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PvP is unplayable, titanfall2 it is.
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Good post. You actually gave feedback and an opinion vs "-blam!- you Bungo! Leaving!" I just want to finish my year three book at this point. I have all of the trophies, all of the experiences... and I've thrown more money at the screen than I care to say.
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Dude, you will buy D2 and so will I! However I support your right to gripe as I care about the trash can of earning light too. The amazing content of ROI is IMHO a dumpster fire of smell greed regarding light levels and loot. You quit at 399 I guess and me at 390 as the grind is just a waste of time. I defend bungie on microtransactions as I don't give two craps if my zhalo has a dumb emblem. I would trade my dust for some 390 chest armor as I am stuck with 385 cause Faction Package Armor is the epitome of RNG evil, pure crystalline horror-screw that! Enjoy the grind folks I'm gonna work on my back log. Was fun while it lasted and this is still the best game for the past two years😎.
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I really like everything you put in here. Theres a few differences id like to make note of because i dont see them very often. I got destiny because its an rpg. A fps rpg. This was exciting to me not because im a giant fps competitor. I loved the cod mw series because the campaigns were great. But the pvp got hacked so quickly it turned me off fps pvp pretty hard. But the rpg aspect made me excited. I love rpgs and always have. Destiny was the closest to an mmo rpg i had ever enjoyed. That being said over the course of the last 3 years several things have become clear. 1 the rpg aspect of destiny is a background consideration. They worry more about catering to competitive pvp players while throwing in just a little half assed new content to still fly under the banner of an rpg. Reskinning enemies is not new content. Barely any new gear since most of it is a reskin as well. 2 the cash grab is extremely obvious. Numerous promises of free dlc only to charge when it comes around. The new once per account per week chests with terrible rng. 3 gold truth ornaments so far. 1 doi. Oh the the doi ornament you get from the book is the only thing you cant get repeatedly. 3 i think activision is scrambling so hard trying to salvage so many games that are tanking. (Looking at you wow) that games like destiny who maintain a solid fanbase are left in the dust. Why work so hard on making it great with 2 around the corner? Put the money and effort elsewhere. Theyve been screwing up the games of every company they buy because they meddle too much. Destiny is no exception. All in all i like destiny. But the last 3 years have shown its not going to be something that is worth the time and effort a good rpg requires of me. And therefore not worth the money. Looking forward to mass effect andromeda. Ff7 remake. And for now i guess ill mess with fallout. Destiny has become a legend of nerfs and money grubbing. Farewell bungie.
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This will be ignored by bungie.. just like every other post that has the harsh reality that they dont want to hear. Nothing will change.. this is Destiny. Oh and agree with pretty much everything apart from the graphics.
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You speak the truth. It's just a shame bungle will never learn from any of these issues.
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Edited by Atomancer: 11/2/2016 3:09:16 PMClaims not seeking attention puts whole description of why he isn't Edit: still thinks I care sends three messages explaining how it's not attention seeking only feedback
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exactly i agree on 100% of this crap (even though i skimmed through it quickly) i think im gonna play overwatch of battlefield, atleast in there you actually need skill to play not op weapons
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"Im not seeking attention and am giving positive feedback" *writes an essay with 70% opinionated complaints*
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Lol not attention seeking but you're a whiner. That's even worse.
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Getting there myself. The 390 faction cap along with exotics decrypting lower than my light level. Then festival of the cash grab...sigh. Getting a wotm raid completion seems like a slim chance at this point with the classic friends list becoming less active with Destiny. LFG is just a nightmare of elitist mentality without having the skill to back it up. I really hope D2 is awesome. Glad that other games pay close attention to this game and forum on not what to do. Other shooters have upped their communications with their players thanks to the lack on here. Still at the end of the day I feel bad for Cosmo and Deej for being the preverbal sacrificial lambs. They send em in here to comment in efforts to stem the tide, but no one else backs it up with tangible action. That job has gotta be rough.
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Why is the OP banned???
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The game is fun. The mechanics are unlike anything else. With that aside, I understand your frustration. When released this game was compared to gambling. It's essentially just as addicting. Bungie has played up that bullshit for 2+ years. RNG was the worst decision ever. No matchmaking was the second worst decision ever. Go back these years and find all the bullshit lies and scandals that Bungie made. The promises they broke... the crap they pulled... the stupid comments they made. They listened to the loudest whines and re-balanced everything to cater to those whines. They almost never made a logical choice based on what the smart skilled players knew and how they played. For every nerf made to this game there was a counter argument that didn't justify that nerf. For instance, Sunbreaker was nerfed to shit. Over nerfed because Bungie catered to the dumbest least skilled players that couldn't fathom using more bullets to take down a tank class when players were using more bullets all the time to try and hit an agile class. It's just logic that many failed to see. To be honest, typing all this pisses me off that I'm still playing. Perhaps it's time to move on.
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Edited by Rilla: 11/2/2016 12:19:51 AMYear 3 is clearly filler content because they couldn't meet their contractual agreement with Activision. I suggest don't throw any money at them this year until they release a game with SUBSTANTIAL CONTENT like vanilla. I'm not giving them any more money for 5 story mission BULLSHIT releases like this polished turd of a release. I love this game but they can't satisfy my hunger, and I'm not happy about it. Penny pinching from the player base that remains is a disgusting and putrid objective. I suggest anyone reading this follow my lead and BOYCOTT EVERVERSE and vote with your wallet if they try to release another low content DLC by not buying it.