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Edited by Twotall:
10/20/2016 11:25:44 AM
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Archon's Forge needs at least one thing changed, the event time out
Edit: I really don't understand the down votes, I knew the general community was generally against the well being of solo players, but this is a little ridiculous.
If you are going to design the follow on to Court of Oryx to be Archon's Forge, it is a nice design in general and I do enjoy playing it.
HOWEVER, there are things that NEED to change. Beyond the changes that the community have already cried for like stackable SIVA offerings, the little things matter the most. If I'm too lazy to LFG or pull friends into a fireteam to run Archon's Forge and I don't have a Perfected offering (read: it's either fused or enhanced) and I want to solo the public event, which is easy to do, I shouldn't have to worry about dying wasting any efforts of farming the offering and starting the event. Honestly... If I'm absolute and I try to duck around a corner only to find a silent exploding shank that was staring at the ceiling or floor is triggered and kills me, I should have enough time to respawn (5 seconds on the counter), get the splicer key into the kiosk, have the door open, and drop back into the arena with at least 15-20 seconds to spare before the event ends.... The timer is so short that the damned door doesnt even open fast enough to the point you can barely see the fallen before the encounter ends. Right now the encounter times out with no one in the arena at about 10-15 seconds.... Just boost that time out to 30 seconds and we are all good. Court of Oryx only gives you 20 seconds but you can walk right through the door (you respawn at about 11 seconds to return to the arena and can run through the door within 4-5 seconds leaving you 6-7 seconds to be slow at life and still continue the encounter). Also, if you fail in the court of oryx you keep your rune....
This issue of Bungie making it take too long to be able to spawn back in and open the door wouldnt be so bad and almost no-one would complain about it (looking at solo players that spawn into an empty Archon's Forge) if we were able to keep the SIVA charges if we fail...
Fix this Bungie!
P.s. I had a topic on this yesterday in feedback but some jackwagon down voted it into obscurity within minutes of the thread being created... his solution was "just don't die" which is fine and dandy but that's not a solution to the issue.
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Right...I almost solo'd a Perfected the other day only to get blown up by an exploding shank that just spawned in. I almost had the door opened until the Fallen disappeared and it sad "The Archon's Forge was too dangerous." Such bullshit.
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You're right. "Just dont die" isnt much of a solution for this. The real solution is don't solo it. How hard is it to wait/reload to get a decent group in the Forge? "Don't go in alone" is a general rule for this. Especially for a Perfect. Both stacking and being able to draw the offerings from the app will help a lot in this problem on its on
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Edited by amandajc808: 10/20/2016 6:53:54 PMTbh I have done a fair amount of grinding in there and so far haven't had any if the issues you mention and 95% of the time, I enter alone. I walk v slowly before getting to the entrance, to try and find a live event. If no one is there I start my own, ideally if I don't have a perfected offering, even if I did have I still start it as 95% of the time, people show up shortly after. Apart from that I don't understand or have had issues with timers etc. The only issue I have is there are 5-6 people in there after I start an event and it's the same 2 people putting offerings in whilst the others stand around holding onto theirs
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That door is stupid, though.
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Nerf the door.. [spoiler]hodor, hodor, hodor[/spoiler]
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17 RepliesYou dying and losing out on your offering/rewards is a punishment for failing to complete it. It's designed that way on purpose because it drops end game rewards.
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It's supposed to be that way
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I do agree about stackable siva offerings the door costs me some perfected offerings when killing the boss
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5 RepliesThe Forge is great the way it is...take some of the tips offered here, try them and I have no doubt you'll be grinding away with 5 other people until your inventory is full.
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Yeah I agree with op. The first time I accidently stumbled into the Forge I reluctantly inserted my offering and boom! It was exciting but I was low light and just exploring the plague lands. Before I knew it I was dead. I responded back up to the top and was wondering why the Siva twizzlers were block my path. I inserted my splicer key and by the time the door opened the event was over. Insert offering Get killed Event over Offering gone To sum it up it felt like being robbed. 10 seconds of fun before it was all ogre.
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9 RepliesSounds good, but generally, I just say suck it up. My internet is really bad, to the point where I can't play with anyone. No crucible, no patrol buddies, no raids, and not even a single person in the tower. I still kick ass in archons forge. The only reason I stop playing archons forge for a while is that I get a perfected and put it in my vault, then I have to find another offering. Other than that, I ususlly don't even die unless I intend it. I solo the heroics and nightfalls too
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2 RepliesI lost a Perfected Siva Offering that way, was very very pissed. OPEN the F'n door FASTER!!!!
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1 ReplyLook at all these MLG pros on here. Don't worry about them it's way too fast to end it sometimes stuff happens and people die and you have almost no opportunity to get back in, the activity ends almost immediately.
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6 RepliesI do agree the door doesn't open fast enough. I couldn't tel what the other 4 were fighting so I unlocked the door. Noticed boss was already spawn. Tried running but was stuck at the door for a solid min even though it was clearing. Luckily it was a perfected dreg. It's not hard to get keys but I don't want to farm them. I learned my lesson to always check before I randomally drop a key.
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The only thing needed to be fixed isnif you respawn to use a key the event doesnt fail! Not sure if anyone knows this but if YOU made the Offering, and YOU respawn after dieing... you Fail.
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I could care less about all of that. I farm it all the time solo. And even then finding people is pretty effortless. My problem is when I spent 30 minutes in the forge yesterday where the boss wouldn't spawn in for any offering we used. We would kill ads, wait for boss to spawn, jump on the dome, be disappointed, and repeat
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Keep it a timed event like Court of Oryx, double the speed of the door opening, remove the event ending when all are dead at the same time, retain perfected offerings upon a loss like Court of Oryx. Sounds reasonable enough...
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6 RepliesLol how do you die to fused or enhanced offerings?? Down voted, just don't be bad please
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I have little trouble when soloing the Fused and Enhanced SIVA Offerings, just the Perfected (I figure they were meant to be tackled with a team/other guardians). The short time-out timer is there for when everyone dies at the same time, thereby ending the event because you (and whoever else is with you) failed. The Archon's Forge (like Court of Oryx) is meant to be taken on with a team. Why? 'Cause Bungie wants this to be a 'shared-world' shooter. The problem isn't the time-out timer, it's the RNG entry points that 'matchmake' at random, sending a group of 4 or 5 coming in from the Archon's Keep to split up, unwillingly. If Bungie cracks down on the 'matchmaking', I believe people could team up easier rather than having to go to extra lengths to find people (ex: LFG, Tower invites).
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5 RepliesEdited by ElonSkywalker: 10/20/2016 4:22:26 PMTell me if I'm wrong. You die near the end of the event and just wait to be revived. Even if you are not revived until after the boss is killed, don't you still get the rewards? I thought this happened to me once but I'm old and my memory is not that good, LOL!
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Edited by emcmcr: 10/20/2016 5:26:03 PMYou are right, and the down votes are actually how Bungie knows something should be fixed, or have you ever seen them fix something people actually wanted fix. Btw the Forge is easy at 320 and 340, the problem is that it sometimes glitches with adds coming out of the ground, or you focusing on a Vandal on a balcony while a shank sneaks up behind you, you know the crap that has happened to all of you but are too proud to admit it.
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1 ReplyYou should just put the offering in and it gives you a prize.... ;) #anothermakeiteasierthread #moderngamers
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Edited by ExoMasterClass: 10/20/2016 5:06:21 PMDownvoted for posting wall of text, no tl;dr. Upvoted for probable good intentions. Downvoted for stealing someone's axe. Upvoted for grinding Forge. Downvoted for dying at Forge. Upvoted for editing post complaining about being downvoted.
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7 RepliesI can easily solo both fused and enhanced on my Titan. So
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It would be nice to carry more than 1 offering but I honestly have no issues with running forge until my inventory is full of engrams. If 2 or 3 other people have an offering they drop enough for everyone to just keep it going.
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4 RepliesEdited by joey big guns: 10/20/2016 1:18:42 PMThe door does need to open faster , not from a solo pov, just in general. It's kinda silly that the animation takes that damn long to open it. Also, I am annoyed at he fact that a public location on a map has people needing to use LfG, dumb. I should be able to walk into the forge and find ppl. There are numerous asshats all over patrol acting like Mr.Steal your Axe, why aren't there any in the forge? The forge is an awesome concept, but after CoO you'd think Bungie would've figured out , "🤔 hey, maybe we should tweak the Forge so it is not a ghost town like CoO?" Other Bungie employee:" no we should make them walk crouched very slowly all over the map so they can join. Haha! We told them we wanted them to play this game with ppl, force them to use the app and LFG to partake in public events." 😩smh.
