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Edited by Shaddow:
10/14/2016 1:40:40 AM
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100's of Iron Lords died over/because of SIVA but only 8 statues in the Iron Temple, odd?
Saladin tells the story of how hundreds of Iron Lords entered the Plaguelands and where either killed by Rasputin's constructs or fighting SIVA yet the Iron Temple has only eight statues. There is not even a tomb of the unknown Iron Lord or even anything to honour the sacrifice of the many Iron Lords we do not know the names of. There are some we do know the names of, from weapons and artifacts (Bretomart, Colovance, Deidris, Finnala, Haakon, Nirwen and Tormod), which we can assume also fell in the Plaguelands yet there are no statues for them either. Why did Saladin only memorialise the eight who made it with him to the SIVA replication facility? Were these eight (and maybe Efrideet, ???) the only ones he cares about?
As someone who has served in the military I find it odd that Saladin, a member of an organised fighting force, would only selectively honour his apparent close friends (and we can safely assume they are, as opposed to the others, as only ever reminisces about some of those eight) and apparently ignore the other Iron Lords who died as part of that SIVA mission. Am I the only the one who finds this very odd? I know it would be impractical to have an Iron Temple with hundreds of statues but to have nothing for the others?
You can’t really argue that the nine Iron Lords that made it the SIVA must been the best (and so thus the statues) as surviving a large battle in many cases is far more to do with blind luck than individual skill. Even so remembering only “the best” and ignoring the others could only be seen as extremely cold hearted. Militaries commonly heap far more honours on the commanders than the junior officers and troops under them so it could be argued the eight given statues where the higher ranking commanders of the Iron Lords. The possibility only the high rankers made it, when all their subordinates fell, seems extremely remote, or utterly ruthless if they had sacrificed all their personnel so they could survive to that point. I know this is just a game but there are some out there that really get into the lore of Destiny. I’m not really one of them but even so, I find it hard to understand the logic of why those who put together the story of Destiny and Rise of Iron would have Saladin only honouring the sacrifice of eight out of the hundreds of Iron Lords that died over SIVA.
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For each stone, each edge, and each corner of the peak, an Iron Lord is represented. For without them, the peak would not last, without them, the world will be so very dark.
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Raise your hand if you feel like making 100 11-ft tall statues(well made, not crappy work), each with their own functioning bell, fire pit, and artifact!
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Because those iron lords had ghosts? Idk mabye they were the first iron lords
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Because there's a difference between those who died by an army of robots and those few who got -blam!-ed by SIVA.
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We didn't purchase enough "Silver"for the rest to be immortalized.
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Edited by Verrano: 10/16/2016 12:31:29 AMSo many Iron Lords died in so many gruesome ways it could've been impossible to identify or memorize them.
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2 RepliesAs someone in the military, are you serious? I did 10 years and was always about politics and favoritism. This actually makes a ton of sense.
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you left out ashraven. these are not iron lords, they were their wolves.
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6 RepliesBecause one the 8 entered into the Siva chamber and "died their final death". "At the time we did not think an iron lord could die" I'm assuming the 100's that went to battle didnt officially die like the ones who sacrificed themselves in the chamber. The others I'd say are still alive. Much like efrideet. Like nirwen finaala,etc they prolly live with efrideet at her "new home" she mentions at the end of the new iron banana quest line.
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They were the first. The ones who started the banner
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I think the statues where meant for the 8 iron lords that fought and died in the replication facility. Not ever single one. He wouldn't have the room for that.
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Edited by Ram sputin: 10/14/2016 10:43:45 PMThe lords honored were the most important, the ones who started it, and help to symbolise the fight. He definitely cares about each lord who fought, and weapons have been created to honor them.
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I'd like to think of the Ironwood Tree as the Tomb of the Unknown Iron Lord, this representing all who died on the "Perilous Quest", but mainly those who didn't make it to the Replication Chamber.
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Over a hundred Iron Lords died. Only one Iron Lord returned to the temple. Do you have any idea how long it takes to carve all those statues? It's been 400 years, but he has Iron Banner to run (about a quarter of the time) and he does patrols of the wall and look out for outbreaks of SIVA so he has to choose which Iron Lords to carve first. Not to mention all the reject statues that he did but were crap so he destroyed them Now that he no longer has IB to do and the guardians have taken over patrolling the wall and keeping SIVA back, maybe he can spend the next couple of thousand years carving statues for another hundred Iron Lords. They will have to be small statues though because there's not much space in the Iron Temple because of the 8 huge statues he already carved
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Bernie is that you?
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To people saying the 1 guardian done it thing: The Iron lords were mostly defeated by Rasputins constructs, not SIVA
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3 Replies100 of iron lords died and 1 guardian was able to do it... okay
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The eight statues represent those who made it to the replication chamber (if that's what it's called) at site 6. But died once inside
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The 8 in the temple are the most significant ones and the original 8.
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The 8 in the temple are some of the founders of the Iron Lords. It's not that the others weren't important, just the ones in the temple were the ones that started it all.
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Just a theory but maybe the fire in the center of the iron temple (with toe wolf statues) is the eternal flame in memory of the other fallen iron lords [spoiler]just to add to this maybe the wolf statues are guarding the nameless souls from the darkness [/spoiler]
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Equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome.
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2 RepliesI was under the impression that the 9 were all the original Iron Lords, like the knights of the round table in King Arthur. He had an army of knights, but those were his elite force and inner circle.
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I'm surprised it is not the [u]Seven[/u] Perhaps we have an imposteur ?
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5 RepliesWhere's my statue?
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Do we know they all died? Some might have merely been driven away. We only know that nine if them actually got past Rasputin. Those nine (8 of them as anyway) sacrificed themselves to stop SIVA. That might be why they're especially honored. In any case, if only one Iron Lord existed anywhere after SIVA, who built the statues?
